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NintendoPie said:
Ajescent said:


flOwer and Heavy Rain want a word with you.

OK, you caught me, two games that are different.

Like I said before, they have some great titles, but I think it's obvious that that is what they try to focus on.

If i may ask how many sony games have you played. Serious question. 



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Andrespetmonkey said:
TheKoreanGuy said:
Andrespetmonkey said:
I would buy this if they didn't announce the Move in 2009.

Why is that? The Move is only used for gaming as far as I know. It's just another control option since there are hardly any Move-specific games.

It's aimed at the casual market, obviously in direct competition with the Wii. I'm sure the "forgetting what built this industry" is at least partly based on the casual direction Microsoft and Nintendo are going in. It's kind of hard to believe Sony are totally focused on the core market when they release something like the Move. There's nothing wrong with releasing the Move of course, but I just find the statements in the OP a little hypocritical. 


The Move still has more HARDCORE Gamer support than the Kinect has with all its games
People seem to forget it can be used for Killzone 3 and works perfectly on point...No lag,no weird movements or anything else...It works 100%
So Move wins and has its "Hardcore" Potential already proven - Kinect didn't.I don't call Kinect Star Wars Dancing,Kinectmimals,Michael Phelps Swimming School or anything like that hardcore.Not even that Sega Crap game in the castle.
Move works with a REAL high budget game and is an alternative to the usual controller and WORKS PERFECTLY.



NintendoPie said:
Ajescent said:


flOwer and Heavy Rain want a word with you.

OK, you caught me, two games that are different.

Like I said before, they have some great titles, but I think it's obvious that that is what they try to focus on.

Heavy Rain, LBP, Infamous, Resistance, Journey, Flower... I could go on. 



YukanaSenix said:

The Move still has more HARDCORE Gamer support than the Kinect has with all its games
People seem to forget it can be used for Killzone 3 and works perfectly on point...No lag,no weird movements or anything else...It works 100%

You know why people seem to forget? It's because the KZ3 audience for the most part frankly doesn't give a crap. 

So Move wins and has its "Hardcore" Potential already proven - Kinect didn't. What has been proven? You can't name one Hardcore-move focused title thats sold 1m units. What has move won? It's sold less than half of what Kinect has, I bet it's used a lot less too.

I don't call Kinect Star Wars Dancing,Kinectmimals,Michael Phelps Swimming School or anything like that hardcore.Not even that Sega Crap game in the castle.
Move works with a REAL high budget game and is an alternative to the usual controller and WORKS PERFECTLY.

I absolutely agree that it works, but what I'm saying is that the majority of the core market doesn't care. Sony said they're thinking about the gamers, well the gamers aren't thinking about buying a playstation Move.

 





I cant copy paste since I am on my kindle, but I looked at cod.

Modern warfare - 8.6 to 6.4
Mw2 - 12.8 to 10
Mw3 - 14 to 11.9
Black Ops- 13.3 to 11.9
WaW - 6.7 to 4.9

That is already a difference of 10.2m ps3 needs to make up somewhere else.

Madden also sells better on 360, as does NHL, NBA and the MLB2k series, so the sports point you brought up doesn't hold. Fifa., if you go all the way back to 08 ads up to ~5.4m in PS3 favor.



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Sorry you got so upset. It isn't wrong or annoying for someone to better inform, but it telling for someone to take what is meant to be helpful overall and turn into it being as if something is wrong with me.

If you're not here to answer questions and initiate in a debate your in the wrong place. A forum isn't just for saying something and walking away and having opinions just accepted and everyone just moving on.

Like i said before, apologies for making you obviously upset. Our conversation ends here.



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Umm Sony since you were so on with gamers at E3. What are the exclusive titles coming out this year that will make them run out to get a PS3 this year?



Its libraries that sell systems not a single game.

Andrespetmonkey said:
TheKoreanGuy said:
Andrespetmonkey said:
I would buy this if they didn't announce the Move in 2009.

Why is that? The Move is only used for gaming as far as I know. It's just another control option since there are hardly any Move-specific games.

It's aimed at the casual market, obviously in direct competition with the Wii. I'm sure the "forgetting what built this industry" is at least partly based on the casual direction Microsoft and Nintendo are going in. It's kind of hard to believe Sony are totally focused on the core market when they release something like the Move. There's nothing wrong with releasing the Move of course, but I just find the statements in the OP a little hypocritical. 

Well from what I read, his statements were made under the context of all the E3 conferences. Was casual/Move titles a huge presence at their conference? At the very least, there was much bigger stage presence of these casual titles from MS and Nintendo this year and I think that's what the guy was trying to get at. Maybe Sony did not do the best job they possibly could, but they certainly had less to show in the casual department.



TheKoreanGuy said:
Andrespetmonkey said:

It's aimed at the casual market, obviously in direct competition with the Wii. I'm sure the "forgetting what built this industry" is at least partly based on the casual direction Microsoft and Nintendo are going in. It's kind of hard to believe Sony are totally focused on the core market when they release something like the Move. There's nothing wrong with releasing the Move of course, but I just find the statements in the OP a little hypocritical. 

Well from what I read, his statements were made under the context of all the E3 conferences. Was casual/Move titles a huge presence at their conference? At the very least, there was much bigger stage presence of these casual titles from MS and Nintendo this year and I think that's what the guy was trying to get at. Maybe Sony did not do the best job they possibly could, but they certainly had less to show in the casual department.

Sure, that would make it more understandable I guess.



Euphoria14 said:
To me, if you were to ask what MS does right, is XBLA. I would love that kind of support whennit comes to the low cost games. Just look at Minecraft. 2M now right?

I want Minecraft.

Why aren't you getting that on PC. I mean it is not a demanding game. Unless you went with post pc devices as i read that you were typing from kindle.