so you'd be happy with giving ukraine the goal last night but not bother witht the offside 15 secs earlier,i think this is the problem for me

i'm not criticising by the way just asking

Not happy but fine with it. We only needed a draw and I had predicted 1 all anyway. :P Ukraine played better than us and deserved a draw.

yes,ukraine were unlucky and deserved more as i posted earlier but i was meaning from a rule point of view regarding technology in footy with where,what,when how you use it

Offside and trying to beat the defence and lines man is part of the game, the ball going over the line only for refs and lines men not to see it and players from both team to see it and protest is something different entirely. It's an exact figure when the ball crosses the line, a player in play when passed the ball in an offside position is not, they might not even score in their chance but a ball going over the line is a goal.

The key to all this though is that 5th official that was put there for this exact reason. The one chance they had to show they are there for a reason and they fail.

Are you saying we should have all or none?

Here's the odds for the quarter finals from Paddy Power. 

21st Jun 2012	Home	Draw	Away
19:45	Czech Republic v Portugal	4/1	5/2	4/5	139
22nd Jun 2012	Home	Draw	Away
19:45	Germany v Greece	4/11	15/4	9/1	138
23rd Jun 2012	Home	Draw	Away
19:45	Spain v France	17/20	12/5	15/4	81
24th Jun 2012	Home	Draw	Away
19:45	England v Italy	15/8	21/10	17/10

Is Blatter actually saying goal line tech is a must? If that's true, that is one heck of (an unsurprising) u-turn.

He did say something similar. Of course I don't think he mentions the missed offside ruling not 10 seconds before. :P

mmm,good answer
i kind of agree with the ball over the line but it seems a bit silly if in the same move everyone can see its offside while for example they use tv replays to see if the ball is over the line,

for ball line technology they want a chip or laser on the line,why don't they just use a tv/camera replay make a decision and tell the ref,in truth the game has gone beyond the human eye/reaction of a ref but no one wants to say it for some reason,refs and linesman can only really guess in a split second over a foul or offside they don't really know,if they are right the pundits say amazing if they are wrong ,oh well,in the end you cannot really stop technology breaking through its only a matter of time 

footy back tonight,i fancy portugal for the result

I am confident with the game of Portugal against the Czech Republic.

Força Portugal

I hope Portugal keeps their concentration and focus for today's game. If we play as we did against Holland, our chances to win are good.