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badgenome said:
maxnyc said:
badgenome said:

Alright, an example: the first handheld to use a touch screen and a stylus was not made by Nintendo.


Ok, you got me, looks like Tiger electronics are the true innovators. Too bad the thing sold like 5 units....

Nintendo is very good at making money off of other people's ideas, there's no doubt. And that's not a backhanded compliment, either. Who cares who made the first motion controller when Nintendo were the ones to make bank on it? The fact remains that they haven't invented anything you credit them with.


One of my very first posts:  http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=146583 In other words, I agree with you and Dragon's Dogma is so fucking amazin'!  Hunted down that Griffin that has been terrorizing the country side last night.  Talk about epic!



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d21lewis said:

One of my very first posts:  http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=146583 In other words, I agree with you and Dragon's Dogma is so fucking amazin'!  Hunted down that Griffin that has been terrorizing the country side last night.  Talk about epic!

Funny, I just fought my first griffin last night. Was way more fun than it was in the demo, probably because it wasn't dark and I knew what the hell was going on this time. Also, because my daggers set things on fire. Considering how many times I've run up and down the road to Gran Soren without seeing anything more dangerous than oxen and the occasional goblin, I nearly shat myself when that griffin landed on top of me out of fucking nowhere.

I also worked up the nerve to take down a drake, although it took me TWO in-game days to do it! Not sure what I did wrong or if it's supposed to take that long, but finally bringing it down was seriously satisfying after he kept talking shit and turning my pawns against me. And my pants got dragonforged in the process, yeaaaah!



badgenome said:
d21lewis said:

One of my very first posts:  http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=146583 In other words, I agree with you and Dragon's Dogma is so fucking amazin'!  Hunted down that Griffin that has been terrorizing the country side last night.  Talk about epic!

Funny, I just fought my first griffin last night. Was way more fun than it was in the demo, probably because it wasn't dark and I knew what the hell was going on this time. Also, because my daggers set things on fire. Considering how many times I've run up and down the road to Gran Soren without seeing anything more dangerous than oxen and the occasional goblin, I nearly shat myself when that griffin landed on top of me out of fucking nowhere.

I also worked up the nerve to take down a drake, although it took me TWO in-game days to do it! Not sure what I did wrong or if it's supposed to take that long, but finally bringing it down was seriously satisfying after he kept talking shit and turning my pawns against me. And my pants got dragonforged in the process, yeaaaah!


All I can say is, if you haven't started to do so already, start doing the missions given to you buy the guy in front of the castle and then the guy that gives you your assignments from the Duke.  Almost every single one of those is so epic and unique that the quests I've been doing up to that point (escort this guy, retrieve this item, kill this creature) seems like they are from two different games!  They start off with one objective and then morph into something else.



Couple of things. Search for Microsoft XWand and you will find demos of a motion control wand similar to Wii Remote years before the Wii came out. MS also had a motion controller for PCs years ago as well.

As for the Wii U tablet. back when Nintendo 1st unveiled the Wii U tablet I said that the technology already exists for MS to use existing tablets and especially with Windows 8 upcoming to do the same or very similar with tablets and/or phones. Last year at E3 we already knew that we could hook up "Xbox Companion" devices to the 360. So with that capability released last year, maybe it is Nintendo that copied the concept.



Its libraries that sell systems not a single game.

I'm actually enjoying all these arcane references about the game.com, xwand, and other crap that was badly implemented and sold 10 units before going out of business (or not even being released). It's like- "oh one time microsoft demo'ed something similar to the wiimote, so they did it first". ok, you got me, maybe nintendo didn't do anything first. maybe nintendo copied absolutely everything they ever released. but at least they do it RIGHT, at least they make it FUN, at least they make it WORK. innovation is different than invention, check your dictionary if you're confused. nintendo modifies and innovates concepts in a way that makes them work for gaming, and is usually first to release them in a commercially viable way for modern consoles and portables, regardless of all these arcane & bizarre references of devices that you've probably never even seen or played....



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thx1139 said:
Couple of things. Search for Microsoft XWand and you will find demos of a motion control wand similar to Wii Remote years before the Wii came out. MS also had a motion controller for PCs years ago as well.

As for the Wii U tablet. back when Nintendo 1st unveiled the Wii U tablet I said that the technology already exists for MS to use existing tablets and especially with Windows 8 upcoming to do the same or very similar with tablets and/or phones. Last year at E3 we already knew that we could hook up "Xbox Companion" devices to the 360. So with that capability released last year, maybe it is Nintendo that copied the concept.

Easy. Nintendo were the first to market the Wiimote on a leading dedicated videogame platform. The risk was huge, and so was the market disruption.

None of which you can deny, and that already is a feat on its own. Same can be said about the DS' dual screen and the 3DS' native 3D screen, as well as the N64 thumbstick (not an analog stick, so that actually was a Nintendo invention).

Give credit where credit is due, people.



d21lewis said:

All I can say is, if you haven't started to do so already, start doing the missions given to you buy the guy in front of the castle and then the guy that gives you your assignments from the Duke.  Almost every single one of those is so epic and unique that the quests I've been doing up to that point (escort this guy, retrieve this item, kill this creature) seems like they are from two different games!  They start off with one objective and then morph into something else.

Do you mean the Wyrm Hunt quests, or ones you get after meeting the Duke? I only just started doing the Wyrm Hunt. So far I've only done that stupid quest where you have a tablet that doesn't mean anything but you have to talk to four people to find that out, and the one where you take the keep back from the goblins. That one turned out to be surprisingly intense after I got to the top of the fort and a cyclops knocked two of my pawns off and killed them. So I scuttled all the way back down to revive my pawns only to find out that they had landed on the other side of a locked door! Back up I went but I couldn't find any other way down, so with my pawns about to be sent back to the rift, I jumped... and survived with 1 HP. Then I revived them, stormed the castle again, killed the cyclops, and the motherfucker dropped two eyes! Was he keeping a spare or something?

Then me and Mason were going to crash some party in the catacombs, but I had to go to stupid work.



happydolphin said:

None of which you can deny, and that already is a feat on its own. Same can be said about the DS' dual screen and the 3DS' native 3D screen, as well as the N64 thumbstick (not an analog stick, so that actually was a Nintendo invention).

True, but Sony invented putting two thumbsticks together. And then they invented the PSP for the sole purpose of reminding us just how stupid having only one thumbstick is.



badgenome said:
happydolphin said:

None of which you can deny, and that already is a feat on its own. Same can be said about the DS' dual screen and the 3DS' native 3D screen, as well as the N64 thumbstick (not an analog stick, so that actually was a Nintendo invention).

True, but Sony invented putting two thumbsticks together. And then they invented the PSP for the sole purpose of reminding us just how stupid having only one thumbstick is.

You have no idea how much of a pleasure it is having an actual conversation with you Funny and true, the dual thumb was Sony's baby, but we all know that it looked a heck of a lock like a siamese twin version of Nintendo's baby.



SamuelRSmith said:
No, keep Ballmer. At least he's somewhat human (laughs at himself, admits mistakes). Kill off that android thing that they call Don Mattrick.

It has to be Ballmer.  Partly because Microsoft has to do it bigger and better than executing Reggie.  Second, the stockholders may be ready to revolt with Ballmer, and Ballmer is shaping up to be a prime candidate to be executed.  Tell you what, how about Microsoft one up things by offing BOTH Ballmer and Mattrick?