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Forums - General - My Girlfriends Brother is being Deported to Italy- a place he lived for the first year of his life!!! *Update*

Ryan either developed a very crazy and interesting life within the last few weeks, or has become an utter attention whore constantly thinking of the next crazy thread ideas to throw at us.

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Some people just have a lot of interesting things going on in their lives. Ninpie just won't have that chance since he seems to spend every waking hour on here. No offense buddy, but I don't know how you do it.



WiiBox3 said:
Some people just have a lot of interesting things going on in their lives. Ninpie just won't have that chance since he seems to spend every waking hour on here. No offense buddy, but I don't know how you do it.

Ryan's in here more than me... 

There is also not much to do during the Weekdays. I get pretty busy over the Weekends, though.



spurgeonryan said:
...We will send him some more next month. If he can hold out long enough we are going to try and get him to Canada or Millenniums back yard within a year.

Also I was saying, other minor crimes. Not that a DUI was minor as well.

lol, please don't send him here. I hear Australia is nice all times of the year :P

spurgeonryan said:

He is 35.

But this could happen even with someone who gets in trouble once. Technically they could have thrown him out the first time around. You guys are saying that even if you know nothing of the country, you should just be shipped back. Has kids here, family, speaks English, has a construction company that has been kept open by his sons, etc. You are saying that in this situation the American Government should deport someone?

 

It's a judge who made this decision. It's not a computer. The judge can make decision based on specific situations and his situation sounds pretty bad. Everything you just described is not what this guy sounds like at all, and even if it did:
- First time around? No
- Does he have kids here? Why was he sleeping in a van in a parking lot then?
- Has a construction company? I hope not.

As for the multiple DUIs and the 34 years he had to get a citizenship, well that's been covered.

Also, dunno much about american laws, but up here in Canada, it's against the law to have open bottles of alcohol in the car... soooo he wasn't innocent with this situation either. (if you guys have this same law which I assume you do).

 



Adinnieken said:

The US is far more relaxed than other countries.  I tried taking a holiday in the UK and was denied entry simply because I mentioned that I might also look for work while on holiday.  I'm not barred from entry into the UK because of that instance (I was denied entry, not deported) but I met a number of people who were.  Mostly Uni students for Far-Eastern countries.  They actually got a kick out of a Caucasian American getting kicked out of the UK.  But most of the were deported because they either dropped out of or stopped attending school and subsequently stayed longer than permitted.  One unfortunate chap actually went through the proper channels well before his deportation but it seems like people there didn't want to help him at all.  Another group from the US was denied entry because they were coming to the UK to perform, but they were coming on a Holiday visa.  US citizens can enter the UK without paperwork (visas) if its for holiday--any other reason and you need the proper visa.  There are few exceptions.

You can't even get married in the UK without a proper visa if you're not a UK citizen.  Nor can you work, look for work or apply for work in the UK (while there) without the proper visa.  In both instances you have to leave, get the proper visa, then come back.

About the only chance your gfs brother has is if his children are 21 or older, they can sponsor him.  But if he's 35, I doubt they are that old.  Otherwise, he may be permitted back in the US if he marries a US citizen.  I don't know how deportation works.

 


On Topic: If it's right or not really doesn't matter anymore. The guy had years and years and years to sort this out. Having lived in a foreign country I know exactly how serious this stuff is. If you want to stay then make sure all the paperwork is done. If you don't want to get deported then don't do something illegal. I don't understand why he wouldn't have done this stuff earlier. As surely it would be less total paperwork than having to deal with renewing visas and so forth. 

To address adinniken. That isn't strict of the UK at all. In fact I think nearly all MEDC's would do the exact same thing, yes even America. It's your own fault for when entering a country for a holiday stating that you are going to look for work. In most countries it is okay to enter on a holiday visa then if you by chance find work stay (although often it is required to simply briefly leave and then return on the new visa). So many people enter countries on holiday visas already knowing they will look for work/ have it lined up. However I thought every single person in the world knew that this is not something you mention to immigration. I remember a friend of mine going to Japan already knowing he had a job lined up, but on a holiday visa as they were going to do the visa on his arrival. When asked why he was visiting simply stated ''Holiday''. 

Not only this but the people you seem to be lumping in the same boat of the Uk was too strict did even worse things. Illegally overstaying the period allowed in your visa and breaking the terms needed for that visa are MAJOR issues in every country. 

The last group were coming to the country to work and wanted to get let in on a holiday visa..... what did they expect? It sounds like you know a lot of idiots. 

I would love for you as a foreigner to try and enter the US doing any of the above. Enter on a holiday but tell immgration you want a job, overstay your visa, break the terms of your visa etc. You would be deported. 

Oh and a good example of how the US is 'relaxed'. The BBC program Top Gear occasionally film there under a visa that is for filming documentaries - what the show is classed as. On returning to America one time they were informed that they would only be allowed into the country if the show was less entertainment and more documentary this time around. 



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This makes no sense at all, and it happened in America???

I am stunned.


leatherhat said:
Deporting criminal immigrants is pretty much exactly what the government should do

that's what native americans thought as well but it didn't work



crissindahouse said:
leatherhat said:
Deporting criminal immigrants is pretty much exactly what the government should do

that's what native americans thought as well but it didn't work


And it turned out very well for them



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leatherhat said:
crissindahouse said:
leatherhat said:
Deporting criminal immigrants is pretty much exactly what the government should do

that's what native americans thought as well but it didn't work


And it turned out very well for them


Yep. They get to star in the next AC game.



leatherhat said:
crissindahouse said:
leatherhat said:
Deporting criminal immigrants is pretty much exactly what the government should do

that's what native americans thought as well but it didn't work


And it turned out very well for them


it's the same logic, just saying...and it turned out well for them? uhh yeah i bet they liked to get killed lol