Sony close to agreeing cloud gaming acquisition...and no PS4? Big E3 announcement incoming

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mike_intellivision on 30 May 2012

superchunk said:

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I wonder if all these companies which are moving to using the cloud have also considered the ISP usage limits that many companies (at least here in the United States) have.

I have Comcast and it has a 250 GB per month limit. That sounds like a lot -- and it is. But what does it really mean. Will you exhaust it if you are playing 8 hours a day, several days a week, as well as streaming movies, visiting webpages, updating Facebook, Tweeting, handling the occasional email, etc.

And from what I can tell, this is a very generous cap.

http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2011/04/how-internet-users-are-disciplined-around-the-world/

Mike from Morgantown

We've discussed this before and I've never been in a place with any form of a cap. Home internet is unlimited as far as I know. You need to move or find a new service.

I provided evidence that it is not in the form of the Arstechnica report. And while they may be limited in use in the US (Time Warner could not make its cap stick), they do exist. Wired had a story about someone who exceeded Comcast's cap twice in six months and got cut off of service. http://www.wired.com/epicenter/2011/07/seattle-comcast/

I have a 1/4 TB limit from Comcast -- so I have a lot. And Comcast is trying the overage fee system. http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2012/05/comcast-raises-data-cap/

Not everyone has the option of moving for bandwidth. People choose where they live for many reasons -- usually if you have kids the first thing you look at is school district.

And yes, we have talked about this before. But as more people use more data, this could cause problems. Look at the limits that ArsTechnica talks about in Canada. http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2011/04/how-internet-users-are-disciplined-around-the-world/ Or look at what cell phone companies do with their limits of 2GB.

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(My other option is Frontier -- which at one point was experimenting with data use charges which would have cost $250 a month for 250GB: http://stopthecap.com/2010/04/14/frontiers-5gb-cap-is-back-now-includes-the-ultimate-in-internet-overcharging-249-99-a-month-for-250gb/)

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superchunk on 30 May 2012

mike_intellivision said:

superchunk said:

mike_intellivision said:
I wonder if all these companies which are moving to using the cloud have also considered the ISP usage limits that many companies (at least here in the United States) have.

I have Comcast and it has a 250 GB per month limit. That sounds like a lot -- and it is. But what does it really mean. Will you exhaust it if you are playing 8 hours a day, several days a week, as well as streaming movies, visiting webpages, updating Facebook, Tweeting, handling the occasional email, etc.

And from what I can tell, this is a very generous cap.

http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2011/04/how-internet-users-are-disciplined-around-the-world/

Mike from Morgantown

We've discussed this before and I've never been in a place with any form of a cap. Home internet is unlimited as far as I know. You need to move or find a new service.

I provided evidence that it is not in the form of the Arstechnica report. And while they may be limited in use in the US (Time Warner could not make its cap stick), they do exist. Wired had a story about someone who exceeded Comcast's cap twice in six months and got cut off of service. http://www.wired.com/epicenter/2011/07/seattle-comcast/

I have a 1/4 TB limit from Comcast -- so I have a lot. And Comcast is trying the overage fee system. http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2012/05/comcast-raises-data-cap/

Not everyone has the option of moving for bandwidth. People choose where they live for many reasons -- usually if you have kids the first thing you look at is school district.

And yes, we have talked about this before. But as more people use more data, this could cause problems. Look at the limits that ArsTechnica talks about in Canada. http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2011/04/how-internet-users-are-disciplined-around-the-world/ Or look at what cell phone companies do with their limits of 2GB.

Mike from Morgantown

(My other option is Frontier -- which at one point was experimenting with data use charges which would have cost $250 a month for 250GB: http://stopthecap.com/2010/04/14/frontiers-5gb-cap-is-back-now-includes-the-ultimate-in-internet-overcharging-249-99-a-month-for-250gb/)

Yeah, that seriously sucks. I really hope they don't push this stuff nation wide and instead remove it as a failed experiment.

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Troll_Whisperer on 30 May 2012

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I tried playing Batman: Arkham City on OnLive with my 20mb connection (though the real speed was about 14mb).

I noticed the lag. It was little (1/2 a second perhaps) but still noticeable when playing a game. Also, I'm not sure the image quality while streaming was as high as you can get playing a regular game.

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Zim on 30 May 2012

kowenicki said:

superchunk said:

mike_intellivision said:
I wonder if all these companies which are moving to using the cloud have also considered the ISP usage limits that many companies (at least here in the United States) have.

I have Comcast and it has a 250 GB per month limit. That sounds like a lot -- and it is. But what does it really mean. Will you exhaust it if you are playing 8 hours a day, several days a week, as well as streaming movies, visiting webpages, updating Facebook, Tweeting, handling the occasional email, etc.

And from what I can tell, this is a very generous cap.

http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2011/04/how-internet-users-are-disciplined-around-the-world/

Mike from Morgantown

We've discussed this before and I've never been in a place with any form of a cap. Home internet is unlimited as far as I know. You need to move or find a new service.

I have unlimited... but a LOT of people in the UK have capped internet.

What ISP do you have? For example I'm on BT's unlimited broadband option. However what it actually means is 300GB is your fair use amount. If you go over that then next month your speed is capped. Luckily I don't think i've ever got near 300GB lol. However I think most UK providers unlimited options have fair use amounts.

You are right that a lot of people here are capped though. Bt's other 2 broadband options are capped at 10GB and 40GB a month. I imagine you could blow through that very fast using online or gaikai.

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NiKKoM said:
you can test cloud gaming on http://www.gaikai.com/games

"Your bandwidth is not sufficient to stream a high quality experience. Please turn off other Internet-enabled applications or devices and try again."

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darkknightkryta on 30 May 2012

My money is on Gaikai, I seem to recall David Perry saying he wanted to use the system as a form of marketing tool. See that advertising for Call of Duty on your browser? That advertising is now a stream demo. Well that's Perry's plan anyways. I don't see it being used for games that need high response times. Maybe mobile games?