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sad.man.loves.vgc said:
How did Ahmed Shafeeq get all these votes ? I am gutted. Just thinking about all those who died for this... sigh.

The final official results havent been announced yet. Hamdeen and Abo Al Fotooh filed complaints against Shafeeq and the court needs to look into those first. Small chance but I am hopeful.

If it's really Ahmed or Morsi then I hope Morsi wins.


He had a really huge swell of support weeks before the election mostly because of how security has been a huge joke.


Honestly, I think i'd rater have him over Morsi.

Ahmed isn't likely to be able to take over with the Muslim Brotherhood in control of the legislative branch.

Full Muslim brotherhood government is worrisome.



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Egypt has big economical problems and both of these guys don't seem to care much.



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sad.man.loves.vgc said:
PullusPardus said:
sad.man.loves.vgc said:
PullusPardus said:
Egyptian revolution is a joke, now they'll have even worse leader than before.

Yeah, it's a joke. That's the best I can describe it. A joke.

 

Seriously man...


I told you before about the islamists and extremists , and the revolution is just one giant brain wash joke, and I think its you (or someone else) that disagreed and thought I was just an evil egyptian hating person xD

now you saw it for your own eyes, the worse is yet to come..



and the revolution wasn't started by the islamists, they opposed it at first actually. It was started by educated honorable people who were fed up by Mubarak adminstration (check post above for illiteracy rate), many of them died for this day you know.


let me get this cleared first, I've been personally involved in the revolution in egypt myself, (the Cairo movement + Shbeen Alkoom protests), not as a supporter but just a third party, I was there back and forth , I know all its ups and downs, I also recorded most of the stuff, even the "Egyptian Friday" one, where the army went on with their tanks and tear gas, this is one of the videos I took recently that I uploaded to youtube 

i've not uploaded the Friday one because, i was actually pissed off and it would be trollish if I post that (i will post it though next soon, just for record sake) 

 

anyways, with that put aside , Its true , that the islamists aren't the ones who started it, because they were opressed by Mubarak, basically they couldn't do anything without the government breathing down their necks, but now since there isn't any government it was their golden chance to act, you've not seen the bullshit they do to win people over, and sadly people in egypt , about 80% of them are uneducated, when ever some one tells them an obvious lie, they believe it, they're the definition of a gullible mind, no I am not being a hater, its just the truth, Egypt is over populated but widely under educated.

since there is no law nowadays, egypt became like a jungle, if someone want to steal something from other villages, they do it, and if someone want to take a road for themselves they do it, and its all in the guise of "Revolution youth" crap, its just all bullshit really, most of the kids who went on to make the "revolution" are just trying to belong somewhere and then use it to get behind the law, have you about how the revolution youth freeing criminals from jails? , its true, what about the "Baltagyia" bunch? thats about 60 % of them and if you've seen some of the parliament stuff it all seem like a giant joke. its very bad

what I am saying is , Egypt doesn't need a new leader, and they don't need another revolution, they need to take a very deep good look at themselves and stop lying to themselves that they're not the bigger part of the wrong that is in their country, and stop placing all the blame on one side while being rotten on their side, If something needs to be reforged, it needs to be burned , mixed and melded first.



Well at least it's not the Salafists. I'm not a huge fan of the Brotherhood but they're hardly going to change Egypt into Saudi Arabia.



Kasz216 said:
sad.man.loves.vgc said:
How did Ahmed Shafeeq get all these votes ? I am gutted. Just thinking about all those who died for this... sigh.

The final official results havent been announced yet. Hamdeen and Abo Al Fotooh filed complaints against Shafeeq and the court needs to look into those first. Small chance but I am hopeful.

If it's really Ahmed or Morsi then I hope Morsi wins.


He had a really huge swell of support weeks before the election mostly because of how security has been a huge joke.


Honestly, I think i'd rater have him over Morsi.

Ahmed isn't likely to be able to take over with the Muslim Brotherhood in control of the legislative branch.

Full Muslim brotherhood government is worrisome.



His vision is scary, he is already threatening protesters, he has blood on his hands. He believes Mubarak is an Idol. Instead of making promises to trial him, he is gonna follow his footsteps! he's already telling people he is gonna shut down peaceful protests... The following video is nothing but I actually used to watch it and laugh, and he is becoming the president... omg: I am still waiting on the final official results, if Hamdeen makes a come back then I'll celebrate.



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Rath said:
Well at least it's not the Salafists. I'm not a huge fan of the Brotherhood but they're hardly going to change Egypt into Saudi Arabia.

Saudia Arabia is actually the prefered form of government.

 

When asked which country, Saudi Arabia or Turkey, served as the better model for the role of religion in government 61 percent said Saudi Arabia. Only 17 percent choose Turkey while the remaining 22 percent responded that neither country was an appropriate model, according to a nationwide survey conducted by the Pew Research Center’s Global Attitudes Project.

 

http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/egyptians-choose-s-arabia-over-turkey-as-model



Kasz216 said:
Rath said:
Well at least it's not the Salafists. I'm not a huge fan of the Brotherhood but they're hardly going to change Egypt into Saudi Arabia.

Saudia Arabia is actually the prefered form of government.

 

When asked which country, Saudi Arabia or Turkey, served as the better model for the role of religion in government 61 percent said Saudi Arabia. Only 17 percent choose Turkey while the remaining 22 percent responded that neither country was an appropriate model, according to a nationwide survey conducted by the Pew Research Center’s Global Attitudes Project.

 

http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/egyptians-choose-s-arabia-over-turkey-as-model


Not the Brotherhood's preferred form. They're Islamists, yes, but not to that extreme.



Kasz216 said:
Rath said:
Well at least it's not the Salafists. I'm not a huge fan of the Brotherhood but they're hardly going to change Egypt into Saudi Arabia.

Saudia Arabia is actually the prefered form of government.

 

When asked which country, Saudi Arabia or Turkey, served as the better model for the role of religion in government 61 percent said Saudi Arabia. Only 17 percent choose Turkey while the remaining 22 percent responded that neither country was an appropriate model, according to a nationwide survey conducted by the Pew Research Center’s Global Attitudes Project.

 

http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/egyptians-choose-s-arabia-over-turkey-as-model


Al Nour (the strongest salfist party) came 2nd in the parliamentary election with 27% of the votes. Brotherhood got 47,2% of the votes. I think it's a better indicator of what the islamists in Egypt want. or I hope it is.



It should be Morsi, as i have a feeling that Egypt isn't up for any radically-Muslim reorientation whoever is actually in control (and hopefully instill trust in the notion of Islamic democracy), while the other guy would help freeze Egypt in the kind of position Algeria's been in for the past 20+ years

The worst case scenario is that the Brotherhood does institute a strict Sharia revision and then we have a military coup and go right back to zero.



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Egyptian protesters set fire to presidential candidate’s office as results in voting come in.