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Sal.Paradise on 12 May 2012
selnor said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
Yang_WenLi said:
Let's not turn this into another PS3 vs 360 vs Wii thread.

At least, it's a start. I do wish they dropped the 'AAA' and 'World-class' term, if the game is good it will be able to stand up for itself.


The reason Microsoft uses AAA in their speech is because they notice the gamer lingo and think terms will impress us. Talk is cheap. Sony doesn't need to say the word core at E3 or Nintendo for that matter.


I always viewed the term AAA as meaning Microsoft are spending lots of money developing the game. I never took it as quality, but rather how muc Microsoft are banking on te title.

You can have a Hollywood Blockbuster, but that doesnt mean it will be a great movie. It means it has the potential as it has high funds backing it.

That's one of the problems with the term, where it should mean just 'big budget', it is now synonymous with the term 'high quality' because of how companies and the gaming press have used it.

It pisses me off because it implies that games with bigger marketing or development budgets are somehow more worthy of our admiration and attention than those without, and now if your cheap-ish game cannot be termed 'AAA' you are at a disadvantage. Gah. makes me so mad. 



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Millenium on 12 May 2012
S.T.A.G.E. said:
Millenium said:
Hopefully if it's a MP only shooter they'll make some sort of MAG that's actually good.


The whole purpose of MAG was to boast that the 360 can't handle a 256 player shooter. Wait for that next gen.



So you're basically claiming Sony and Zipper were more interested in creating a herpwecanwhatyoucantderp game than a actually great game?

Doesn't suprise me then that one is gone and the other loses billions.

So yeah, I'd much rather wait until next-gen for a quality title than a game that just isn't that good.



S.T.A.G.E. on 12 May 2012
selnor said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
Yang_WenLi said:
Let's not turn this into another PS3 vs 360 vs Wii thread.

At least, it's a start. I do wish they dropped the 'AAA' and 'World-class' term, if the game is good it will be able to stand up for itself.


The reason Microsoft uses AAA in their speech is because they notice the gamer lingo and think terms will impress us. Talk is cheap. Sony doesn't need to say the word core at E3 or Nintendo for that matter.


I always viewed the term AAA as meaning Microsoft are spending lots of money developing the game. I never took it as quality, but rather how muc Microsoft are banking on te title.

You can have a Hollywood Blockbuster, but that doesnt mean it will be a great movie. It means it has the potential as it has high funds backing it.


Well technically it is AAA and qualith should be synonymous since the budget is so big. The expectation and marketing are huge. All I can say for now is that it should because in reality those two are not always synonymous.



S.T.A.G.E. on 12 May 2012
Millenium said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
Millenium said:
Hopefully if it's a MP only shooter they'll make some sort of MAG that's actually good.


The whole purpose of MAG was to boast that the 360 can't handle a 256 player shooter. Wait for that next gen.



So you're basically claiming Sony and Zipper were more interested in creating a herpwecanwhatyoucantderp game than a actually great game?

Doesn't suprise me then that one is gone and the other loses billions.

So yeah, I'd much rather wait until next-gen for a quality title than a game that just isn't that good.


Sony didn't market M.A.G. at all. Second of all M.A.G. isn't like COD or Halo..you actually have to think and complete objectives instead of just running and gunning. The majority of console gamers are not prepared for such a game. M.A.G. would better survive in a PC environment.  If you're goin to target the American crowd with a shooter keep it simple pick up and play like Halo and Call of Duty. Sony desperately invested in Americans obsessions with shooters when I believe they should've just focused on the Japanese and bring  JRPGs to proper light in a newer generation. One can only hope for this next gen.



NobleTeam360 on 12 May 2012
Lostplanet22 said:
D-Joe said:
Lostplanet22 said:
D-Joe said:
Lostplanet22 said:
D-Joe said:
Lostplanet22 said:
D-Joe said:

even 343i is not just developing Halo 4 now(and Halo4's mp already finished),how can the article think Vancouver is helping 343i...and 343i already have 200+(maybe 300 now) employee

 

btw,"another shooter" is pretty funny,how many live shooter ip is MS foucs now?one,Halo,even include Gears,it just 2

how many sony have?4 at least,and i never saw anyone say same thing to sony


Yeah but that one shooter game takes almost 100% of their focus. Halo 4 is almost the only retail game that gamers can come up with that is first party(except for all the kinect shit). Compare that with all the games releasing from Sony this year in all those different genre's it is hard to call it an shooter box.  

a add-on you don't like doesn't mean it's shit

maybe you can go back to N4G first and find some crazy、24 hour on call haters to blame me,they just like you and some peoples,always call himself "hardcore/real/true/whatever" gamer,but more like controllerism guy

Sorry that I am interested in good games and don't blindly defend games as kinect star wars.

you're talking kinect itself,not kinect star wars

i'm not blindly defend,but you're blindly hate

Blindly hate?   http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=131355  I own Kinect and when this pictures are old I got myself my Kinect games and except for Child of Eden they are rather boring experiences..Like most of the people who defended Kinect the last year I gave up on Kinect and its games. 

is it matter you own kinect or not?even you throw 1000+ games in my face,what you said is already showing you just another crazy hater

you even implying who don't hate kinect also mean like kinect star wars

If I own and played Kinect how can I blindy hate it? Like so many others it is my experience and faith in MS that made me dislike the Kinect. If I am an hater because I would prefer to see Steel Batellion/Fable Journey and Panzer dragoon with controller fine with me.  You accused me already as an MS hater while my collection clearly shows that I have an (maybe unhealthy) interest in X360 and X360 games related stuff. The last years MS was dissapointing and like most X360 fans I critize MS for it and don't defend their actions.


Spoken like a true gamer. It almost makes me want to cry lol.



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Millenium on 12 May 2012
S.T.A.G.E. said:
Millenium said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
Millenium said:
Hopefully if it's a MP only shooter they'll make some sort of MAG that's actually good.


The whole purpose of MAG was to boast that the 360 can't handle a 256 player shooter. Wait for that next gen.



So you're basically claiming Sony and Zipper were more interested in creating a herpwecanwhatyoucantderp game than a actually great game?

Doesn't suprise me then that one is gone and the other loses billions.

So yeah, I'd much rather wait until next-gen for a quality title than a game that just isn't that good.


Sony didn't market M.A.G. at all. Second of all M.A.G. isn't like COD or Halo..you actually have to think and complete objectives instead of just running and gunning. The majority of console gamers are not prepared for such a game. M.A.G. would better survive in a PC environment.  If you're goin to target the American crowd with a shooter keep it simple pick up and play like Halo and Call of Duty. Sony desperately invested in Americans obsessions with shooters when I believe they should've just focused on the Japanese and bring  JRPGs to proper light in a newer generation. One can only hope for this next gen.



What does marketing have to do with it? You came in here to shit on 360 by claiming M.A.G was created to be wecanwhat360cant and now you're talking marketing?

"The majority of console gamers aren't prepared for such a game"? So now you're suddenly saying what? Console gamers are dumb?

Console gamers desperately wanted BF3 on consoles to support more players, a very objective based game. "Keep it simple like Halo"... Lol! You're basically defending a game by just blaming everyone and everything for being either dumb or stupid, well done.

If you're just gonna insult everyone instead (And especially Americans, even though there's plenty of PS3's in the EU, where this game is also sold btw...) of even considering that the game just isn't that great... Well I just hope you'll refrain from quoting me just to troll in the future.



S.T.A.G.E. on 12 May 2012
Millenium said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
Millenium said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
Millenium said:
Hopefully if it's a MP only shooter they'll make some sort of MAG that's actually good.


The whole purpose of MAG was to boast that the 360 can't handle a 256 player shooter. Wait for that next gen.



So you're basically claiming Sony and Zipper were more interested in creating a herpwecanwhatyoucantderp game than a actually great game?

Doesn't suprise me then that one is gone and the other loses billions.

So yeah, I'd much rather wait until next-gen for a quality title than a game that just isn't that good.


Sony didn't market M.A.G. at all. Second of all M.A.G. isn't like COD or Halo..you actually have to think and complete objectives instead of just running and gunning. The majority of console gamers are not prepared for such a game. M.A.G. would better survive in a PC environment.  If you're goin to target the American crowd with a shooter keep it simple pick up and play like Halo and Call of Duty. Sony desperately invested in Americans obsessions with shooters when I believe they should've just focused on the Japanese and bring  JRPGs to proper light in a newer generation. One can only hope for this next gen.



What does marketing have to do with it? You came in here to shit on 360 by claiming M.A.G was created to be wecanwhat360cant and now you're talking marketing?

"The majority of console gamers aren't prepared for such a game"? So now you're suddenly saying what? Console gamers are dumb? Console gamers desperately wanted BF3 on consoles to support more players, a very objective based game. "Keep it simple like Halo"... Lol! You're basically defending a game by just blaming everyone and everything for being either dumb or stupid, well done.

No...read through our convo pyramid. You were the one who said Microsoft should make their own version of M.A.G. thats actually good, when this gen no such game is possible on a 360.  I responded accordingly stating Sony knew this and created MAG to throw it in Microsofts face while trying to win over Americans with a shooter. Guess what? It failed because they didn't market it. Secondly, M.A.G. doesn't suck and its not exactly the most simple shooter.



mantlepiecek on 12 May 2012

MAG was a great multiplayer game. You actually had to learn how to play the game, you had to follow orders from your seniors, mic was actually needed to do well in this game unlike other games where it's used to scream profanities for no reason, or to play music to be an annoyance.

The later patches to the game broke it in my opinion. It's no longer as good as it was.



chocoloco on 12 May 2012
hollabackenny said:
It's too bad Sony's "exclusives" are already out for Nintendo. Either way, I imagine that whatever this is, it'll be filling in Gears of Wars space on the exclusive list. People can argue about lack of variety all they want but Microsoft is about business and when 6 of the top 10 games played on Live right now are shooters, it seems smart to produce more of what sells.

Though I do not agree Sony's and Ni ntendo's exclusives are similar in any way. I agree MS is doing what they know will sell and it is the right thing to do. Corporations hardly ever cater to minorities complaining about variety on forum boards.    The funny thing is, I fit the MS gamer description more, yet play many more shooters on my ps3. Oh how the lines blur.!



S.T.A.G.E. on 12 May 2012
chocoloco said:
hollabackenny said:
It's too bad Sony's "exclusives" are already out for Nintendo. Either way, I imagine that whatever this is, it'll be filling in Gears of Wars space on the exclusive list. People can argue about lack of variety all they want but Microsoft is about business and when 6 of the top 10 games played on Live right now are shooters, it seems smart to produce more of what sells.

Though I do not agree Sony's and Ni ntendo's exclusives are similar in any way. I agree MS is doing what they know will sell and it is the right thing to do. Corporations hardly ever cater to minorities complaining about variety on forum boards.    The funny thing is, I fit the MS gamer description more, yet play many more shooters on my ps3. Oh how the lines blur.!


Shooters have been and will continue to be popular in the future. The problem is the funneled spending habits in the west towards such genres in large consumerist nations like America. Companies like Microsoft don't make games for the sake of variety and testing them on a market. They will only invest in profitable games which of course will give the gamers a small library of games in the end. The era of cultured gaming is over essentially.