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crissindahouse said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
d21lewis said:
It would be the worst idea, ever. I wouldn't mind a Gears of War (Epic IP) crossover with Halo or something where two or more similarly themed franchises came together but something on the scale of Nintendo's Smash Bros. just shouldn't be done. Nintendo's characters seem to be able to coexist together--remember the old cartoon "Captain N". Microsoft's characters just don't seem to have that. Maybe a bunch of Rare characters or a bunch of Twisted Pixel characters, but a company wide crossover? Hell no.


Microsoft barely has the any characters synonymous with them and famous enough to do it. Gears and Halo are the most famous characters built on the Xbox. The Fable character is so generic can anyone even remember his name? Microsoft should give full credit for a game like that Solely to Rare who have been making great characters since the NES era and call it Rare Champions or something. Microsoft themselves aren't at that level yet.

for me the sony characters aren't more famous than the microsoft characters. for me, master chief, joanna dark, banjo, conker, splosion man, kameo and so on are as famous as sly, kratos, drake, jak and ratchet.

i only played god of war and uncharted but i played all games with characters i mentioned from microsoft. you don't know them as good because you didn't play those games but you can say that even to a new character like drake. just ask people owning an xbox or wii but not surfing in forums like this after drake. they won't have a clue who that is.

a good friend of mine had the playstation and playstation 2 but bought the 360 then. he doesn't surf in interent forums like this. i could bet with you even when he plays videogames some hours every day (he is a little bit addicted) that he has no clue who drake is.

more people know the playstation characters because more had a playstation but for the n64 and xbox owners the microsoft/rare characters are as famous as the playstation characters for playstation owners. i would say only nintendos characters are famous on the whole planet, even for people who did never have a nintendo console. but just because they aren't as famous doesn't meant that the game couldn't be successful. if the sony game will sell like 5 million copies the 360 one could sell like 2.5 million or so which would be good. i have no clue how much the playstation game will sell but i think it will be very successful. maybe i'm totally wrong but this forum alone shows how much is going on since the announcement. more posts in one thread than halo, god of war and some other have together.

i mean, it's not only about the own charactes you need characters from other companies as well and there, nobody will  have a better collection if you do it right.


For you Sony characters might not be that great, but heres something that cannot be disputed, theres your opinion and a fact. You dont have to like something of Sony's for it to be great. Theres people who refuse to play a Zelda or Kirby game but cannot deny their effect on the gaming industry. Don't attack Nathan drakes character when the franchise has sold over 17 million copies in one generation. Uncharted is an amazing franchise with an amazing protagonist and characters to bounce his character off of. Theres movie stars who want to play as Nathan Drake and Sony pictures could make it happen. It would be a hit.



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enditall727 said:
denniswaterman said:
If Fat Princess and Ice Climbers are good enough to make a roster, sure as crap MS has 20-30 characters to stick in a Smash Bros rip off.

There's no reason to though, Sony can't reinvigorate the PS3 business, for years it was "wait for god of war 3" or "wait for gt5" then they came and went and the PS3 was still not saved, so sony had to dive deeper back and start resurrecting sly cooper and twisted metal, they won't/haven't worked either. I wouldn't be shocking to see them go back even further in search of IP's like Rosco McQueen or Captain Blasto to try to regrab some of that former glory from a decade ago.

That's all All Stars is, if you can't make new IP's to sell your console, stick them all in one game. Surely that'll be huge right?


i mean yea we all know that M$ made a new ip this gen that sold consoles((sarcasm))

Nintendo undoubtedly made a new ip this gen that sold consoles

LMAO!

EDIT: man there was so much goodness in this thread to reply to LOL but i was trying to refrain from posting in this thread again so i'll keep the replies short with just these two replies

and did i just read someody say that the Sonys characters AREN'T more famous than the M$ character?? OH MY GOD LMAOOOOOOO

 I CANT! I JUST CANT!!


(Actually, Nintendo did. Remember Brain Training? It's sold quite much and many people bought a DS just for that.)



enditall727 said:
selnor said:
enditall727 said:
crissindahouse said:
enditall727 said:
crissindahouse said:
enditall727 said:
ZaneWane said:
Carl2291 said:
Im sure they could. More than enough characters and a history of copying, much like Sony.

elaborate


you wouldn't know because people dont care when a company copies unless its SONY

so here is a few

M$ copied PlayStation with its guide button. they took the Playstation home button and called it the Guide button

M$ used analog sticks which Nintendo did 1st

M$ made a camera which i believe the Dreamcast did 1st

 

stuff that ONLY Sony gets criticed for

huhh? am i stupid right now or was this microsofts idea?

yea i think you are just stupi.....

 

okay i want you to take a look at this picture

now i want you to ask yourself when the PSP released and when the 360 released

i also want you to ask yourself why you actually thought that the Home button was M$'s idea

 

maybe its because nobody cares when other compaies copy UNLESS ITS SONY!

 

;)

or maybe because i don't care if one company copies the other one? and because i don't really care about handhelds? ahhh too bad you couldn't think about this option, my..uh...your fault...

didn't know the psp has such a button and why i thought that this was microsofts idea? i didn't think it was their idea like "we were the first with the idea on a paper" because that's like with everything, anyone has this in his drawer since 1975 or so...but i thought they were the first to really implement it for a console/handheld from the big three.

or maybe because i dont care

 

this speaks volumes and is the point that i was saying when it comes to copying in this industry ESPECIALLY when the company is not Sony doing the copying :)

but whatever..

 

EDIT: oh and i added the bolded because ps3 fans dont search for that stuff. It is basically blasted in the media/reviews so it is hard not to know what Sony supposedly copied but its a different story when it comes to other companies. You didn't know that M$ copied Sony because nobody in the media talks about it for a fan like YOU to know about it

OMG.

Its a F**King button.

The length of development time that was between 360 and PSP shows noone copied anyone. Both ideas were on the table before either company saw the respective products.

Copying is PS1 with the controller, or Trophies for achievements. Or Brawl for Smash Bros.

Copying is when a company blatantly had no concesses to do it or include it but comes out with it after the world has already seen the other product.

Sixaxis would be another, or PS wands or Kinect.

These are copying not a friggin Home button on 2 systems that ad tose in the design 1 - 2 years before they came out. 

LOL!!!!

of course there would be someone trying to justify Microsofts copying of the PS home button


No this is BS looking for a copy that isnt there.



selnor said:
enditall727 said:
selnor said:
enditall727 said:
crissindahouse said:
enditall727 said:
crissindahouse said:
enditall727 said:
ZaneWane said:
Carl2291 said:
Im sure they could. More than enough characters and a history of copying, much like Sony.

elaborate


you wouldn't know because people dont care when a company copies unless its SONY

so here is a few

M$ copied PlayStation with its guide button. they took the Playstation home button and called it the Guide button

M$ used analog sticks which Nintendo did 1st

M$ made a camera which i believe the Dreamcast did 1st

 

stuff that ONLY Sony gets criticed for

huhh? am i stupid right now or was this microsofts idea?

yea i think you are just stupi.....

 

okay i want you to take a look at this picture

now i want you to ask yourself when the PSP released and when the 360 released

i also want you to ask yourself why you actually thought that the Home button was M$'s idea

 

maybe its because nobody cares when other compaies copy UNLESS ITS SONY!

 

;)

or maybe because i don't care if one company copies the other one? and because i don't really care about handhelds? ahhh too bad you couldn't think about this option, my..uh...your fault...

didn't know the psp has such a button and why i thought that this was microsofts idea? i didn't think it was their idea like "we were the first with the idea on a paper" because that's like with everything, anyone has this in his drawer since 1975 or so...but i thought they were the first to really implement it for a console/handheld from the big three.

or maybe because i dont care

 

this speaks volumes and is the point that i was saying when it comes to copying in this industry ESPECIALLY when the company is not Sony doing the copying :)

but whatever..

 

EDIT: oh and i added the bolded because ps3 fans dont search for that stuff. It is basically blasted in the media/reviews so it is hard not to know what Sony supposedly copied but its a different story when it comes to other companies. You didn't know that M$ copied Sony because nobody in the media talks about it for a fan like YOU to know about it

OMG.

Its a F**King button.

The length of development time that was between 360 and PSP shows noone copied anyone. Both ideas were on the table before either company saw the respective products.

Copying is PS1 with the controller, or Trophies for achievements. Or Brawl for Smash Bros.

Copying is when a company blatantly had no concesses to do it or include it but comes out with it after the world has already seen the other product.

Sixaxis would be another, or PS wands or Kinect.

These are copying not a friggin Home button on 2 systems that ad tose in the design 1 - 2 years before they came out. 

LOL!!!!

of course there would be someone trying to justify Microsofts copying of the PS home button


No this is BS looking for a copy that isnt there.


of course YOU think it isn't there but the picture is right there as clear as day ;)

i just love this =D LOL

i still remember earlier in the gen before i knew of vgchartz, everybody would say that Sony copied M$'s "guide" button and called it the "Home" button LMAO

but when the TRUTH about it gets brought up, its a different story

the truth can be hard to handle sometimes i guess..

;)



D-Joe said:

is turkish always stay in here and don't even play any games?

btw

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Studios_(game_studio)#Owned_franchises_and_properties

Owned franchises and properties

 

dame, supose to be a reply. yes they coulld and they won't i'd like to see a soulcaibur type game.



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S.T.A.G.E. said:
crissindahouse said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
d21lewis said:
It would be the worst idea, ever. I wouldn't mind a Gears of War (Epic IP) crossover with Halo or something where two or more similarly themed franchises came together but something on the scale of Nintendo's Smash Bros. just shouldn't be done. Nintendo's characters seem to be able to coexist together--remember the old cartoon "Captain N". Microsoft's characters just don't seem to have that. Maybe a bunch of Rare characters or a bunch of Twisted Pixel characters, but a company wide crossover? Hell no.


Microsoft barely has the any characters synonymous with them and famous enough to do it. Gears and Halo are the most famous characters built on the Xbox. The Fable character is so generic can anyone even remember his name? Microsoft should give full credit for a game like that Solely to Rare who have been making great characters since the NES era and call it Rare Champions or something. Microsoft themselves aren't at that level yet.

for me the sony characters aren't more famous than the microsoft characters. for me, master chief, joanna dark, banjo, conker, splosion man, kameo and so on are as famous as sly, kratos, drake, jak and ratchet.

i only played god of war and uncharted but i played all games with characters i mentioned from microsoft. you don't know them as good because you didn't play those games but you can say that even to a new character like drake. just ask people owning an xbox or wii but not surfing in forums like this after drake. they won't have a clue who that is.

a good friend of mine had the playstation and playstation 2 but bought the 360 then. he doesn't surf in interent forums like this. i could bet with you even when he plays videogames some hours every day (he is a little bit addicted) that he has no clue who drake is.

more people know the playstation characters because more had a playstation but for the n64 and xbox owners the microsoft/rare characters are as famous as the playstation characters for playstation owners. i would say only nintendos characters are famous on the whole planet, even for people who did never have a nintendo console. but just because they aren't as famous doesn't meant that the game couldn't be successful. if the sony game will sell like 5 million copies the 360 one could sell like 2.5 million or so which would be good. i have no clue how much the playstation game will sell but i think it will be very successful. maybe i'm totally wrong but this forum alone shows how much is going on since the announcement. more posts in one thread than halo, god of war and some other have together.

i mean, it's not only about the own charactes you need characters from other companies as well and there, nobody will  have a better collection if you do it right.


For you Sony characters might not be that great, but heres something that cannot be disputed, theres your opinion and a fact. You dont have to like something of Sony's for it to be great. Theres people who refuse to play a Zelda or Kirby game but cannot deny their effect on the gaming industry. Don't attack Nathan drakes character when the franchise has sold over 17 million copies in one generation. Uncharted is an amazing franchise with an amazing protagonist and characters to bounce his character off of. Theres movie stars who want to play as Nathan Drake and Sony pictures could make it happen. It would be a hit.

i don't attack nathan drake...lol? i just said that almost nobody knows this guy if he isn't someone surfing in gaming forums. yes it sold 17 million games this doesn't change the fact that most of them bought uncharted 1, 2 and 3 and then you only have a much smaller group and if you ask wii, pc or xbox gamers they have no clue who mr. drake is if they aren't in forums like this (which is only a small part of gamers). i love uncharted games, he is still well unknown for most people. it's not like tomb raider or so, well known character even for people who didn't have those games

you are funny, i'm attacking nathan drake as character because i said he isn't very popular outside the gaming forum and playstation owner world? hope he won't read what i wrote...

and when did i say sony characters aren't that great? did you read something different because the post wasn't in your favour? i said they aren't more famous for me than microsoft characters, why does this mean for you: "they aren't that great for him"? i have only the 360 and ps3 which would mean i don't like exactly the characters of the consoles i own? and if it is because i said "i only played uncharted and god of war but all games with the characters i mentioned from microsoft", i said it because i had as example a n64 but no playstation. if i would have owned a playstation or ps2 i would have played these games as well in the past and yeah only with playstation i wouldn't have played conker or perfect dark.



 

denniswaterman said:

 plz try to stay on topic, this thread is not about Sony, and what fans thought would save the system. you're way off topic in that regard.



enditall727 said:
selnor said:
enditall727 said:
selnor said:
enditall727 said:
crissindahouse said:
enditall727 said:
crissindahouse said:
enditall727 said:
ZaneWane said:
Carl2291 said:
Im sure they could. More than enough characters and a history of copying, much like Sony.

elaborate


you wouldn't know because people dont care when a company copies unless its SONY

so here is a few

M$ copied PlayStation with its guide button. they took the Playstation home button and called it the Guide button

M$ used analog sticks which Nintendo did 1st

M$ made a camera which i believe the Dreamcast did 1st

 

stuff that ONLY Sony gets criticed for

huhh? am i stupid right now or was this microsofts idea?

yea i think you are just stupi.....

 

okay i want you to take a look at this picture

now i want you to ask yourself when the PSP released and when the 360 released

i also want you to ask yourself why you actually thought that the Home button was M$'s idea

 

maybe its because nobody cares when other compaies copy UNLESS ITS SONY!

 

;)

or maybe because i don't care if one company copies the other one? and because i don't really care about handhelds? ahhh too bad you couldn't think about this option, my..uh...your fault...

didn't know the psp has such a button and why i thought that this was microsofts idea? i didn't think it was their idea like "we were the first with the idea on a paper" because that's like with everything, anyone has this in his drawer since 1975 or so...but i thought they were the first to really implement it for a console/handheld from the big three.

or maybe because i dont care

 

this speaks volumes and is the point that i was saying when it comes to copying in this industry ESPECIALLY when the company is not Sony doing the copying :)

but whatever..

 

EDIT: oh and i added the bolded because ps3 fans dont search for that stuff. It is basically blasted in the media/reviews so it is hard not to know what Sony supposedly copied but its a different story when it comes to other companies. You didn't know that M$ copied Sony because nobody in the media talks about it for a fan like YOU to know about it

OMG.

Its a F**King button.

The length of development time that was between 360 and PSP shows noone copied anyone. Both ideas were on the table before either company saw the respective products.

Copying is PS1 with the controller, or Trophies for achievements. Or Brawl for Smash Bros.

Copying is when a company blatantly had no concesses to do it or include it but comes out with it after the world has already seen the other product.

Sixaxis would be another, or PS wands or Kinect.

These are copying not a friggin Home button on 2 systems that ad tose in the design 1 - 2 years before they came out. 

LOL!!!!

of course there would be someone trying to justify Microsofts copying of the PS home button


No this is BS looking for a copy that isnt there.


of course YOU think it isn't there but the picture is right there as clear as day ;)

i just love this =D LOL

i still remember earlier in the gen before i knew of vgchartz, everybody would say that Sony copied M$'s "guide" button and called it the "Home" button LMAO

but when the TRUTH about it gets brought up, its a different story

the truth can be hard to handle sometimes i guess..

;)

I dont tink Sony copied them.

PS3 boomerang controller didnt have it. But they didnt add it to PS3 DS at last minute because of 360. And I dont think M$ copied Sony either. Certainly not PSP. M$ used it for a different typr of reason to PSP and was on early drawings of 360 controllers anyway. Long before PSP hit the market.

Theres such thing as similar ideas, and then teres blatant sifting of plans. Kinect altough very different to Wii waggle was a blatant copy of direction for example. 



MARCUSDJACKSON said:
D-Joe said:

is turkish always stay in here and don't even play any games?

btw

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Studios_(game_studio)#Owned_franchises_and_properties

Owned franchises and properties

 

dame, supose to be a reply. yes they coulld and they won't i'd like to see a soulcaibur type game.

fianlly someone with me:make a actual FTG(if MS want some crossover game),not SSB style game



D-Joe said:
MARCUSDJACKSON said:
D-Joe said:

is turkish always stay in here and don't even play any games?

btw

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Studios_(game_studio)#Owned_franchises_and_properties

Owned franchises and properties

 

dame, supose to be a reply. yes they coulld and they won't i'd like to see a soulcaibur type game.

fianlly someone with me:make a actual FTG(if MS want some crossover game),not SSB style game

yep, sony could do the samething with fatalities. more in the vain of killer instinct gold meets MK. no ratchet though lol.