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Forums - Sales Discussion - Nintendo earnings net loss 43 Billion yen, 3DS still sold at loss (until approx August '12)

Game Nintendo VGChartz Difference
Mario Kart 7 (3DS) 5,240,000 5,300,000 +60,000
Super Mario 3D Land (3DS) 5,840,000 5,750,000 -90,000
Mario Kart Wii (Wii) 32,440,000 31,840,000 -600,000
New Super Mario Bros. Wii (Wii) 26,260,000 25,300,000 -960,000

These are the only games I could get for the week ending March 31st. Nintendo's #'s are sold to consumer right?



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NAh its right. ignore this post



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Mr Khan said:
Soleron said:
This is awesome. Glad to know that MK7/3D Land can't save the 3DS.

How many quarters of losses can Iwata survive?

Who would they replace Iwata with, hmm? The "down with Iwata" crowd needs to think long and hard about that. Iwata's part of a generation of gaming executives that no longer exists, and frankly the longer he sticks around the better, because the only people you'll find to replace him are going to be pure "artist" or pure "bean-counter," either of which would be disastrous.

Replace him with any businessman, preferably someone who has no experience in videogames and doesn't have a personality like Reggie.

He'd look at the sales charts and go, why don't we do exactly what Wii and DS did (and their best selling games) but more of it? And look at the 3DS and the stupid tablet thing and go, why don't we do much, much less of that? Nintendo's studios waste so much time, they could produce a reasonable and polished Wii Sports or NSMB entry once a year. No creativity would be fine if they kept up the pace (see: Call of Duty).

I'd trade the niche games I like but make no sense to produce (Advance Wars, 2D Metroid) for seeing Nintendo survive as an independent entity.



cyberninja45 said:
Smeags said:
Game Nintendo VGChartz Difference
Mario Kart 7 (3DS) 5,240,000 5,300,000 +60,000
Super Mario 3D Land (3DS) 5,840,000 5,750,000 -90,000
Mario Kart Wii (Wii) 32,440,000 31,840,000 -600,000
New Super Mario Bros. Wii (Wii) 26,260,000 25,300,000 -960,000

These are the only games I could get for the week ending March 31st. Nintendo's #'s are sold to consumer right?


I think you have some of Nintendo's numbers mixed up

*Looks back over the Nintendo #'s*

I think I got them right. *laughs* Now I'm all befuddled.

I just rounded the VGC #'s by the way.



Smeags said:
cyberninja45 said:
Smeags said:
Game Nintendo VGChartz Difference
Mario Kart 7 (3DS) 5,240,000 5,300,000 +60,000
Super Mario 3D Land (3DS) 5,840,000 5,750,000 -90,000
Mario Kart Wii (Wii) 32,440,000 31,840,000 -600,000
New Super Mario Bros. Wii (Wii) 26,260,000 25,300,000 -960,000

These are the only games I could get for the week ending March 31st. Nintendo's #'s are sold to consumer right?


I think you have some of Nintendo's numbers mixed up

*Looks back over the Nintendo #'s*

I think I got them right. *laughs* Now I'm all befuddled.

I just rounded the VGC #'s by the way.

The 2D Mario's numbers make me so proud of the gaming population ages 3-98



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Smeags said:
cyberninja45 said:
Smeags said:
Game Nintendo VGChartz Difference
Mario Kart 7 (3DS) 5,240,000 5,300,000 +60,000
Super Mario 3D Land (3DS) 5,840,000 5,750,000 -90,000
Mario Kart Wii (Wii) 32,440,000 31,840,000 -600,000
New Super Mario Bros. Wii (Wii) 26,260,000 25,300,000 -960,000

These are the only games I could get for the week ending March 31st. Nintendo's #'s are sold to consumer right?


I think you have some of Nintendo's numbers mixed up

*Looks back over the Nintendo #'s*

I think I got them right. *laughs* Now I'm all befuddled.

I just rounded the VGC #'s by the way.


yeah(edited post), I'm just expecting to see SMB3dLand to be outsold by MK7. XD



My 3ds friendcode: 5413-0232-9676 (G-cyber)



Soleron said:
Mr Khan said:
Soleron said:
This is awesome. Glad to know that MK7/3D Land can't save the 3DS.

How many quarters of losses can Iwata survive?

Who would they replace Iwata with, hmm? The "down with Iwata" crowd needs to think long and hard about that. Iwata's part of a generation of gaming executives that no longer exists, and frankly the longer he sticks around the better, because the only people you'll find to replace him are going to be pure "artist" or pure "bean-counter," either of which would be disastrous.

Replace him with any businessman, preferably someone who has no experience in videogames and doesn't have a personality like Reggie.

He'd look at the sales charts and go, why don't we do exactly what Wii and DS did (and their best selling games) but more of it? And look at the 3DS and the stupid tablet thing and go, why don't we do much, much less of that? Nintendo's studios waste so much time, they could produce a reasonable and polished Wii Sports or NSMB entry once a year. No creativity would be fine if they kept up the pace (see: Call of Duty).

I'd trade the niche games I like but make no sense to produce (Advance Wars, 2D Metroid) for seeing Nintendo survive as an independent entity.

A businessman with no experience in video games would ask one question: why no iOS? And then would just start dumping classic Nintendo IPs all over the app store, likely dissolve either the console or the handheld entirely (the strength of the handhelds in Japan being reason to keep them alive, i suppose).

You need someone with a degree of vision that stands beyond strictly what the market dictates, but at the same time you need someone who wasn't raised in "the industry" and doesn't think like the ego-dominated games-industry does. Iwata predates the industry but comes from a developer background, which is the ideal leadership figure for this kind of business, because you need someone who can recollect a time when the business looked nothing like what it does today, and yet who has a history of helping to make the business look like how it does today.

A businessman would just tear down what makes Nintendo, Nintendo, since we can see what all the "businessmen" want Nintendo to do from all the analyst chatter, and it isn't pretty.



Monster Hunter: pissing me off since 2010.

Train wreck said:

 

The 3DS is still being sold at a loss and will be for another year



Fix the OP will ya.



My 3ds friendcode: 5413-0232-9676 (G-cyber)



Wait... I thought Nintendo always gives numbers sold to consumer, no to retail.....



I guess I'll just do #'s for the other games as well. Shouldn't be too much of a difference (2 extra weeks of sales).

Game Nintendo VGChartz Difference
Wii Sports (Wii) 79,600,000 78,850,000 -750,000
Wii Sports Resort (Wii) 30,140,000 29,610,000 -530,000
Wii Play (Wii) 28,020,000 28,540,000 +520,000
Super Mario Galaxy (Wii) 10,680,000 10,090,000 -590,000
Wii Fit (Wii) 22,670,000 22,710,000 +40,000
Wii Fit Plus (Wii) 20,480,000 20,410,000 -70,000
Super Smash Bros. Brawl (Wii) 10,790,000 10,990,000 +200,000
       
New Super Mario Bros. (DS) 29,090,000 28,220,000 -870,000
Mario Kart DS (DS) 22,570,000 21,840,000 -730,000
Super Mario 64 DS (DS) 10,370,000 9,600,000 -770,000
Animal Crossing: Wild World (DS) 11,620,000 11,270,000 -350,000
Nintendogs (DS) 23,890,000 24,380,000 +490,000
Pokemon Diamond/Pearl (DS) 17,610,000 17,980,000 +370,000
Pokemon Black/White (DS) 14,710,000 13,930,000 -780,000
Pokemon HeartGold/SoulSilver (DS) 12,400,000 11,270,000 -1,130,000
Brain Age: Train Your Brain in Minutes a Day! (DS) 19,000,000 19,950,000 +950,000
Brain Age 2: More Training in Minutes a Day! (DS) 14,870,000 15,200,000 +330,000
       
The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time 3D (3DS) 2,610,000 2,630,000 +20,000
Pokemon Rumble Blast (3DS) 1,080,000 840,000 -240,000
Nintendogs + Cats (3DS) 2,700,000 2,250,000 -450,000