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LCD LED vs Plasma for gaming

LCD 44 9.95%
 
Plasma 195 44.12%
 
LCD LED 202 45.70%
 
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ethomaz said:

Slimebeast said:

I want a Samsung plasma so bad. I love the Samsung 8000 LED series but I heard it's got much problems with bleeding/clouding and that CNET reviews seems to confirm that.


To the Samsung plasma. In the review it's called Samsung PN59D8000. But what is the same model called in my country Sweden?

Here in my country I see a Samsung PS64D8005 (2011 model) and Samsung PS64E8005 (2012 model) - are these the same as in the review?

I don't know.

Here (Brazil) I found three models: PL51D8000, PL59D8000  and PL64D8000... I found in Samsumg's support the PL59D8000 is the same PN59D8000 with Latin American firmware... I guess your PS is for Sweden firmware.

That 8005 model doesn't exists in US yet (so no Latin American version too).

Okay, that's the same model then.

Now the 2011 model costs approx. 2300 Euros (and the 2012 model costs approx 3200 Euros). I wonder if I should buy one. I am also worried about input lag, the convienency for picture adjustment sand other issues related to gaming.



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High End LED or Plasma. Plasma is still superior to most LED TVs. Just LCD is not even in the same league.

Plasmas have one huge advantage over LCD. You can turn of every pixel individualy. Makes for infinite contrast

Another advantage is the reaction time which is measured in NANOseconds way faster than any LCD. Think 2ms is the fastest for LCD. Reduces ghosting in 3D.

Plasma would be my pick. They are bigger/heavier but provide a superior quality for the same price.



Player1x3 said:
archbrix said:
Chark said:
I didn't know this was still a debate. Plasma looks better than LCD but suffered reliability issue in exchange. LED is in simple terms LCD that can output the darks that plasma can, so best of both worlds. Not all LEDs are the same though, OLED is great, figure out the difference between edge lit and backlit because one is better, edge lit I believe?

Backlit LED LCDs are better than Edge-lit.

It's up for debate because despite the huge advancements in quality that LED backlighting provides over traditional LCD displays, plasmas are still widely regarded among the experts as having better picture quality.

OP:  Check out this link and do your own research on this site; these guys know their shit and have done extensive testing on these TVs with a variety of content and in multiple lighting conditions. 

http://www.hometheater.com/content/do-you-prefer-plasma-or-lcd-tvs

One test I read about in particular a while back was a movie with a space scene.  Watching it on an LED backlit LCD offered good black levels, but when lighting bright images in dark scenes, such as stars in space for example, it resulted in an odd halo effect around the stars that's not present in the same scene on a plasma, where it looked flawless... and many stars were hardly even visible on the LED, whereas the plasma had everything visible in better detail.

Bottom line:  Go with whatever suits you best.  It's true that plasmas heat up a smaller room fast (which sucks), but for the best picture quality, be it movies or games, they're the better choice.  Picking among the top models of either tech, though, will result in a great TV.


so do you think i should go for this TV? Or a cheaper Plasma alternative ?

Well, I would recommend the plasma simply because I think they have better picture quality.  Plus, you can get a TV at the same size (42 inch for plasma) for a bit cheaper.

I looked up that TV, though, and it seems to be the most advanced LED model they make that's not a 3D set.  The CMR (Clear Motion Rate) is not as high as the 3D models, but like I said in my first post, this is both a blessing and a curse.  The interpolating of frames on LCD/LED TVs enhances the more video taped/soap opera look, which really bugs many people, even though the motion smoothness is better.  Plasmas, however, have perfectly sharp motion detail at no expense of picture quality.

I'd say get a good plasma; break it in properly by running it with non-static images (i.e. no games) several hours a day for a week with the contrast and brightness turned up high to get it off of its initial "image retention" and eliminate the chance of burn in (remember, image retention and burn-in are not the same thing.  Image retention is perfectly normal for a brand-new plasma, and is not at all permanent; burn-in is).  Even burn-in on today's plasmas is so minor, you can't see it 95% of the time; usually only on plain white or light grey backgrounds. 

Once it's broken in, you can adjust your settings and start playing games with no worry, and if you can stand the heat it puts out (my only big gripe with plasma), you'll have the better TV, IMO.



No need to break in plasmas anymore.. they have techology that can shift the pixels around every min if u choose in the option menu.. I game all the time on my plasma and no IR or burn in



People need to stop calling LCD that are either back lit (top and bottom only) or edge lit by LEDs an LED tv.

true LED tvs are OLED. These are the ones just coming out and cost an arm and a leg.

saying that for me LCD edge lit LED is the way to go atm. Samsung is best looking so far.



 

 

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*Awaits incoming rage*

I personally think my $350 40" Dynex TV looks pretty amazing (I was blown away with Star Wars in Blu Ray). Maybe it is just because I'm a college kid, but I cannot justify spending incredibly more than that for TV's that look a tiny bit better.

You should really make sure spending a ton is really even the option you want to take. If you spend $500 on a TV that goes out in 2 years, just remember that rather than the original $1,000 TV, you could probably buy another $500 TV that looks better than the original $1,000 one.



Money can't buy happiness. Just video games, which make me happy.

pro tip: BIG TVs make this gen's games look bad.



Yay!!!

Waiting out for SED....or Laser TV


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Baalzamon said:
*Awaits incoming rage*

I personally think my $350 40" Dynex TV looks pretty amazing (I was blown away with Star Wars in Blu Ray). Maybe it is just because I'm a college kid, but I cannot justify spending incredibly more than that for TV's that look a tiny bit better.

You should really make sure spending a ton is really even the option you want to take. If you spend $500 on a TV that goes out in 2 years, just remember that rather than the original $1,000 TV, you could probably buy another $500 TV that looks better than the original $1,000 one.



these are some cheap TVs. Aus must be overpriced as for $500 all you can get is about a 32inch.



 

 

Cobretti2 said:
1.  People need to stop calling LCD that are either back lit (top and bottom only) or edge lit by LEDs an LED tv.

2.  true LED tvs are OLED. These are the ones just coming out and cost an arm and a leg.

3.  saying that for me LCD edge lit LED is the way to go atm. Samsung is best looking so far.

1.  LCDs that are LED back-lit are NOT top to bottom only; the LEDs are behind the screen, hence the name "back" lit.  Both edge and back-lit LEDs ultimately pass the light through the LCD panel from behind.  The difference between them is where the LEDs are mounted; along the edges or behind the panel.  And yes, it is correct to refer to these TVs as LED because they ARE LED TVs, which brings me to your next point...

2.  No.  LED and OLED are not the same in that they work in different ways.  Unlike LEDs which rely on edge or back lighting, OLED displays emit the light themselves.  Those aren't even available for the consumer mass market beyond about 11 inches right now; we're talking about LED lit LCDs here, which yes, are referred to as LED TVs.

3.  Edge-lit LED-LCD screens can be thinner than back-lit, but back-lit (also known as full-array) screens have far better local dimming and offer a much better contrast ratio.  Most edge-lit models don't even feature local dimming (even some back-lit models don't).  Ergo, back-lit with local dimming offers the best picture.