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While I can understand why you don't agree with Moreno's methods of openly trying to snuff out the other sibling, linkz, I really don't see any added harm that Dolphin didn't already damn us with. That is if Doofus really is a sibling town.

If he was scum, he would discuss the matter with his scummates during the night (or day), not openly with us. I don't like your case against moreno. Especially since, on a personal level, I considered doing something similar as morn, so it doesn't come of as scummy to me. Matter of fact, I got a town read from it.



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hatmoza said:
While I can understand why you don't agree with Moreno's methods of openly trying to snuff out the other sibling, linkz, I really don't see any added harm that Dolphin didn't already damn us with. That is if Doofus really is a sibling town.

If he was scum, he would discuss the matter with his scummates during the night (or day), not openly with us. I don't like your case against moreno. Especially since, on a personal level, I considered doing something similar as morn, so it doesn't come of as scummy to me. Matter of fact, I got a town read from it.

If he just wanted to find the other sibling or lack therof that would be one thing. But he pretended to not want the sibling to come forward.

As it is, HD can be protected by the doctor, or at least the idea of a doctor protecting HD can keep scum from killing him at night. Out the sibling and their chances of survival drop significantly.

I would expect you to do that, because it is always in your nature to out everyone else, town be damned if it's actually for the best.



Linkzmax said:
hatmoza said:
While I can understand why you don't agree with Moreno's methods of openly trying to snuff out the other sibling, linkz, I really don't see any added harm that Dolphin didn't already damn us with. That is if Doofus really is a sibling town.

If he was scum, he would discuss the matter with his scummates during the night (or day), not openly with us. I don't like your case against moreno. Especially since, on a personal level, I considered doing something similar as morn, so it doesn't come of as scummy to me. Matter of fact, I got a town read from it.

If he just wanted to find the other sibling or lack therof that would be one thing. But he pretended to not want the sibling to come forward.

As it is, HD can be protected by the doctor, or at least the idea of a doctor protecting HD can keep scum from killing him at night. Out the sibling and their chances of survival drop significantly.

I would expect you to do that, because it is always in your nature to out everyone else, town be damned if it's actually for the best.

By the very slim chance he was not lying about the sibling, we can agree it'd been better if the sibling didn't show himself. Think of that post as a failed way to prove he doesn't have a sibling.



Geez, finally someone giving beef to moreno. Screw you Rol.



Linkzmax said:
hatmoza said:
While I can understand why you don't agree with Moreno's methods of openly trying to snuff out the other sibling, linkz, I really don't see any added harm that Dolphin didn't already damn us with. That is if Doofus really is a sibling town.

If he was scum, he would discuss the matter with his scummates during the night (or day), not openly with us. I don't like your case against moreno. Especially since, on a personal level, I considered doing something similar as morn, so it doesn't come of as scummy to me. Matter of fact, I got a town read from it.

If he just wanted to find the other sibling or lack therof that would be one thing. But he pretended to not want the sibling to come forward.

As it is, HD can be protected by the doctor, or at least the idea of a doctor protecting HD can keep scum from killing him at night. Out the sibling and their chances of survival drop significantly.

I would expect you to do that, because it is always in your nature to out everyone else, town be damned if it's actually for the best.


He limit them into a list a newb player could figure out if they actually thought about it.

And while I'm at it, let me throw this out there. Why do we assume that the mafia players are so dumb that they can't read between the lines like any other player can? Whether it's a riddle, hint, or a pun that is blown up into something it wasn't never meant to be originally, the mafia will see it as clear as we do.

Back to Linkz. So no, the second sibling will not out themselves... they will be a moron if they did. However, making a list that narrows down the sibling isn't something that each of us already partially did in the back of our heads. So I find it hard to hold that list against morn.

Also, you fail to realize the possibility of Doofus lied about the sibling thing, which could explain the non existent support from his brother during his fiasco, or possibly the reason the brother didn't even role claim - they don't exist.



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pezus said:
Scratch my question. Users can obviously lie

What did you mean by "Users"?

supermario128 said:

Vote: happydolphin

He is obviously mafia. He seems over confident that the mafia are humans when we really don't know yet. The mafia could be "bad" Pokemon or something else entirely. It is also odd how he seems to know certain people are innocent already. At this point in the game no one should know this much, thus making him mafia that has said too much.

I'm also suspicious of Prof, but that is the case every game I play with him.

You're right, I can't say for certain that mafia are humans. I would be confident in saying all town are pokemon and vice-versa though, and thus mafia and any other non-town are not pokemon.

But if Noctis is any good as a host, he gave any non-town a safelist of pokemon they can claim. So the whole thing is moot.

happydolphin said:

Rule 1 of mafia: Townie always lynch townies day 1. Keep making the same mistake brethren.

False false false! Mafia can be lynched day 1, but odds are against it. That doesn't make day 1 lynches bad though. Good(smart) players can learn a ton from a mislynch. Good(smart) players will push a lynch even on the chance that is a mislynch, because votes and lynches are town's strongest weapon.

We are going to have a lynch today and as long as I continue to play, there will be lynches day 1 in every future game as well.

Stefl1504 said:
RolStoppable said:
spurgeonryan said:

Now that you are here, let's get straight to the point: Do you have a power role this time?

If not, I'd like to get you lynched right away to save us all a lot of headache.

Straightforward - but does sound a lot like role fishing...

anyway, if he is vanilla - lets lynch him^^

Bah, more "rolefishing" talk when it's not such. This is blatantly asking for a claim, but it's obviously not serious either.



NintendoPie said:

Stefl1504 said:

@ pezus's "Why the heck would everyone vote for Rol now? "

When somebody acts unusual or suspicious in the eyes of some people there might be something we call lynchtrain, this can result in a quick lynch of a person and is often profitable for scum since they can blend in easy without gathering much suspicion - I can't judge the people voting for rol yet, but I don't like it when noobs form a lynchtrain for scum to jump on it^^

>_> I feel like you're talking about me here.

Why so defensive when you weren't even named?

M.U.G.E.N said:
Stefl1504 said:

Then please explain why you would make such an accusation^^

no idea. everyone is pointing the finger at everyone :D so might as well...and besides only scum would want to deviate attention away from them towards others so you look like a prime candidate

Not true. Town wouldn't want attention focused on them for too long either. It could lead to a mislynch rather than lead finding scum.

spurgeonryan said:
Oh God! Are you the annoying townie again Linkz?

I'll probably annoy some people, but I'm going to try real hard not to be insulting this round.

supermario128 said:
Linkzmax said:
Ninja'd! prof and I are confirmed mafia on different teams.

Good to know. Now who are your fellow mafia on your team?

Let's see.. it can't be prof, Trucks and I again since I already said prof is on the other team... Okay, I'll stick with Trucks and pick Wonk. prof can have hat and radish, because they'd work well together.



happydolphin said:
Geez, finally someone giving beef to moreno. Screw you Rol.

Let me guess, Linkz is trustworthy and 100% town for you.



happydolphin said:
manuel said:

Oh, forgot to vote.
Both pezus and morenoingrato had awesome avatars before those they have now, so I'll follow their vote.

Vote: happydolphin

Although I'm not sure there are many blonde mafia guys. :P

So why? Why would I be mafia it makes no sense whatsoever. What is your reasoning, or is it just some gut? Guys, the town is not in a position to play on whims you NEED to explain.

You could easily be mafia, but you're right that far too many votes have been thrown down without any reasoning. No lynch(good or bad) is as meaningful if it's all just bandwagoning.

spurgeonryan said:
happydolphin said:
And as I said, it had been years, was irl, and I waited many vgchartz mafia sessions before joining this specific Mafia game, so when he asked me, in my mind it was no, but after playing a little I got back into the groove and the fun emotions of the game came back, and I remembered "Yeah, I played this at this person's house so many years ago". If it was really to my advantage to suddenly say I had played, why am I having to defend it in front of 3 players?

Really though.


Come on! You were invited two games ago I think. You watched the last game, and in the middle of posting in this game you just all of a sudden realized you had played in a game before?

 

Can someone with more sense than myself jump in on this shit?

Sure! In my first game here, which was also my first game of forum mafia, I was very experienced with terms and such.(Because I read several full games and went through the entire flash tutorial before joining up) IRL Mafia games are somewhat similar and don't always go by the same name. Usually they go more like this day has been so far, with random finger pointing and lynchtrains pulling out to a good lead quickly, instead of our usual slower pace of finding candidates.

supermario128 said:

 Mafia should never be allowed to talk with each other during the day, but if they do there is no way they could be caught. It is more of an "honor system" I guess.

Being the one to start the trend,(which I pulled from elsewhere) I wholeheartedly disagree. Allowing mafia to strategize during the small window of night and fend for themselves during the longer days takes away a lot of the team aspect. Sure in a "real town" two or more people sneaking off to talk to each other would raise pitchforks, but that doesn't translate well to forum Mafia.

morenoingrato said:
I think that due to a lot of new players, Mafia is free to talk during day. And sorry to irratate you Rol, but there's a bery high chance of that.

HD changed from someone who knows the game well to someone agressive very quickly, which suggest coaching.

As an example, in my first game I was Mafia with prof, we were allowed to talk during day and he helped me a lot.

I can't remember how you seemed to know the game too well in your first game. Point being, it's easy to skate by for a while as a clueless rookie. If mafia can talk during the day, any good "coach" would just tell HD to act inexperienced.



morenoingrato said:

 And @HD, are you saying that you got something that says Mafia is Humans and Pokemon are Town in your PM? If so, please show me.

This was a modkill trap.

TruckOSaurus said:

radish: I REALLY didn't like his posts at the start of the day. It all ended with this post

radishhead said:
I've sort of got myself in a hole here- I am a Pokemon, but I can't answer Truck's question because I said that roles might be linked to pokemon and it will be really obvious what pokemon I am if I say anything - if you get what I'm saying, please don't say anything about it

The underlying message I read from this is "Damn, I don't want to fakeclaim just yet so I'm gonna pretend that answering a simple question about being cute or not will somehow point to a specific Pokemon out the 1000+ available AND that this specific Pokemon will point to a obvious role so this way people will back off me and leave me alone because they'll fear reveal an important role"

I see your point, but I still think town so far. But he's either going to die or be forced to claim at some point, and his refusal to answer your question should be remembered if that happens.

TruckOSaurus said:
theprof00 said:
I also felt good about pezus.
So, after the re-read, I'm thinking pezus, wonk, HD are town, adding on to my previous feeling that manuel is also, and spurge, slight town reads on rol, moreno, and trucks.
Which leaves me about 10 suspects.

Also, I don't like how Hat flipped on his feeling about HD so quickly. He soon abandoned his thoughts when HD said he was padib. I didn't like that.

I agree about most of your "feels" except for moreno. To me he acted like scum who's found a lynchable townie and it felt like he wasn't interested in what Happy had to say and he was just looking for ways to bring him down.

This. In http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4525920 moreno gives two possible explanations for HD's vote, both of which point to HD being mafia.