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Final-Fan on 02 May 2012
Wonktonodi said:
not to mention the fact had did just come in and try voting for the guy. I think he would know his own PM

He didn't say anything about why he voted.  It is speculation that he is suddenly sure manuel is scum based on his old information (because pezus flipped).  This is why I am so annoyed he would take off for 3 days without telling us why he is so sure. 

manuel is definitely in my top half of suspects, and I'm not going to fight too hard against a lynch of him, but I am concerned we are attributing evidence that is not necessarily the case (or not the case at all, IMO, depending on how you answer my last question). 



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M.U.G.E.N on 02 May 2012

Can we really trust hatmoza? I felt like his behavior is extremely anti town so far. I know he deflected the lynch on him onto happyD. Can someone who knows more about this game tell me if there is a mafia role that could do the same?



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Final-Fan on 02 May 2012
Wonktonodi said:
Final-Fan said:
Wonktonodi said:
hatmoza said:
morenoingrato said:

I'm sure Pezus is the one who lied, but the one who lied is notnecessarily Mafia.

@bolded that's specifically why I'm not taking the PM to heart.

and here we are FF

OK at this point I need to ask:  are we in complete agreement with each other and just thought we weren't?  Or are you saying that hatmoza's PM had TWO pieces of information:  "there's a noob liar" and "there's a noob mafia"?  Because I don't think the second one is the case. 

Since he pointed out both statements and came in here voting "Manuel" I think it was two pieces of infromation.

I read moreno's statement as "just because pezus lied doesn't mean he's necessarily mafia" not "... the mafia your PM said was among the noobs".  Hatmoza's own statement mentions that the PM says ONLY that someone lied.  I don't know what more is needed to convince you that hatmoza's PM did not say "there is absolutely a mafia among the noobs" ... or at least that hatmoza hasn't yet TOLD us that that's the case. 



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Final-Fan on 02 May 2012
M.U.G.E.N said:
Can we really trust hatmoza? I felt like his behavior is extremely anti town so far. I know he deflected the lynch on him onto happyD. Can someone who knows more about this game tell me if there is a mafia role that could do the same?

hatmoza's role of redirecting a lynch makes him pretty likely to be town.  That is pretty much all everyone is basing their trust in him on.  It's possible he's scum, but the scum team would have to be smaller than normal for this size town.  On the other hand, town has been showing a LOT of power roles, meaning a super-powerful mafia role (which that would absolutely be) is conceivable. 

He's probably town. 



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manuel on 02 May 2012

At first I was sure he's town. But seeing the way he acts I believe he's a third party (but not scum).



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manuel on 02 May 2012

ebwop:
I meant hatmoza with my post above.



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radishhead on 02 May 2012

I think there is probably a 3rd party out there somewhere (although I think it's just a "survivor" role) - the game has too many plyers for there to not be



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nen-suer on 02 May 2012

I share FF concern regrading the "evidence" Hat has one Manuel.
That plus i cant get my self to fully trust hat.

Manuel maybe suspicious, but i don't know him very well to be sure.
I'd rather he gets investigated and we lynch radish coze i don't believe him claim not for 1 second.



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nen-suer on 02 May 2012
manuel said:
At first I was sure he's town. But seeing the way he acts I believe he's a third party (but not scum).

Correct me if i'm wrong, but you said Hat was 3rd party more than once.

I dont like how you never considered that hat maybe mafia (he's not one of you) 



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nen-suer on 02 May 2012
Wonktonodi said:

Vote: Manuel

I trust hat's info. Also there being some changes between his day one play style and latter days play style. In addition to other reasons brought up before.

That was a quick vote! 

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