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theprof00 said:
hatmoza said:
theprof00 said:
hatmoza said:


What can I say, I get lonely at night and Linkz was looking mighty fine last night.

 

I am not acting different because I'm afraid of a lynch, I'm just trying to avoid using my ability on the first day if it can be avoided. You said you would lynch HD if I answered your questions. I did.

You're still evading the question.

He's looking mighty fine in what way? I'm not understanding how it was entertaining.


prof prof prof, by now you should of got the sarcasm. There is no answer to that question other than I felt like lying for no reason other than I am hatmoza.  I sometimes bend the truth. Like the vigilante claim. I just lie sometimes.

Well it's too bad you chose that time to act stupid then.

You should also know that time is of the essence, and as a townie, your job is to not only find scum but to convince us that you are town. You have not done either one yet, and if HD flips scum, I will still believe that you are scum.


You say that if this behavior is new to you. I believe the only reason you said that is because you know the table's gonna turn once I prove my ability is real, and it shows that Dolphin flips scum because everything is gonna start leading back to you.

Out of everything you could of held against me you used that as an excuse to pre-label me as scum when tomorrow starts. I got news for you. Unless scum kills me tonight it's going to be a very, very long day for you tomorrow.

I'm just getting started, and you personally know how persuasive I can be when I'm town.



I am the black sheep     "of course I'm crazy, but that doesn't mean I'm wrong."-Robert Anton Wilson

Vote HappyDolphin

Since pezus isn't the sibling, I am now of the opinion there's no sibling. Also, I won't take the chance that hatmoza is lying and the doctor is enough of an idiot to protect Happy.



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happydolphin said:
theprof00 said:

1) Mafia can target someone at random and kill your sibling. Since we don't know who your sibling is, doctor is unreliable at protecting them. Knowing this, doctor isn't going to waste time on a noob who *might* be targeted, the doc will protect people who know what they're doing, like me, linkz, and others, or people who have hinted at being power roles. Therefore, mafia, knowing that the power roles and good players will likely be protected, they will go after a noob (or anyone else), for that matter, and likely stumble into your sibling. Even worse if there are two kills, you are doubly likely to die. If we know who your sibling is, mafia can presume he is likely to be protected (even if he is not) and will have to target someone else.

What if he's not a noob, then yes I lied. I may have lied because it's important for town to conceal the identity of my sibling. When I roleclaimed, I panicked because I was under heavy attack. It was a compromise, but in the process we've learned a hell of alot about hatmoza. It was well worth it.

2) You are a sibling. Your partner is likely also vanilla since siblings are = masons. Your power role is that you have a better grasp on who is town and who isn't. That's something a lot of us don't have. However, there is also likely other power roles who are more important to kill than you. The mafia is not going to risk being blocked simply to kill someone with no deadly power role (like a cop's power role). Sure 2 for 1 is a good kill, but right now, you are right, your real enemy is the voters. And if you get lynched, that's 100% chance that you die, instead of 50%. Get it?

3) What if we go to lynch someone and that person is your sibling?

2) @bold, yeah that's why I was so terrified at first. But now that some people posted reason and town has figured things out, I'm more confident that doctor will protect us from a 2 for 1 kill.

3 is possible, but it's 1 chance of probably I don't know, assuming a 4-man team anti-town and maybe 2 3rd parties, plus not targetting me, minus Basil, that's 1 chance in 19-8. 1 chance out of 11 of hitting my sibling. Good luck. And that's not to say the doctor may anticipate and also chose to protect the most likely candidate. It's all up in the air at that point.

1) It DOESN'T MATTER becuase if you are protected, then they will just target someone else, and that person will likely be your sibling and then you'll die ANYWAY. Look at it from a mafia standpoint, say me and linkz are mafia.

-Hey linkz let's target happy.
-No you fool, Happy is going to be protected!
- So what?
-So then we'll lose a kill, let's kill trucks instead, he's a good player and probably has a role too.
-OK that sounds good, let's kill trucks

The doctor:
Derpdederp: I will protect happy because he's a sibling.

Morning: Someone is dead, doctor picked the wrong person.
(Unless trucks is your sibling, in which case, now you are both dead)

2) Your thinking is so short term! We might have a lynch today, but whatabout tomorrow!?! You will be just as suspicious, and unless we get some great info, you will be up for lynch AGAIN.

3) I said "what if we LYNCH your teammate" not what if he's killed at night.



@Pezus.

It's part of the calculation. Think about it for a sec, if you still don't figure it out, I'll tell you why.

Hint: He was modkilled.



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happydolphin said:

@Pezus.

It's part of the calculation. Think about it for a sec, if you still don't figure it out, I'll tell you why.

Hint: He was modkilled.


That is just ... too fucking convenient.

Your coaches are good though, I give them that.



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theprof00 said:
happydolphin said:
theprof00 said:

1) Mafia can target someone at random and kill your sibling. Since we don't know who your sibling is, doctor is unreliable at protecting them. Knowing this, doctor isn't going to waste time on a noob who *might* be targeted, the doc will protect people who know what they're doing, like me, linkz, and others, or people who have hinted at being power roles. Therefore, mafia, knowing that the power roles and good players will likely be protected, they will go after a noob (or anyone else), for that matter, and likely stumble into your sibling. Even worse if there are two kills, you are doubly likely to die. If we know who your sibling is, mafia can presume he is likely to be protected (even if he is not) and will have to target someone else.

What if he's not a noob, then yes I lied. I may have lied because it's important for town to conceal the identity of my sibling. When I roleclaimed, I panicked because I was under heavy attack. It was a compromise, but in the process we've learned a hell of alot about hatmoza. It was well worth it.

2) You are a sibling. Your partner is likely also vanilla since siblings are = masons. Your power role is that you have a better grasp on who is town and who isn't. That's something a lot of us don't have. However, there is also likely other power roles who are more important to kill than you. The mafia is not going to risk being blocked simply to kill someone with no deadly power role (like a cop's power role). Sure 2 for 1 is a good kill, but right now, you are right, your real enemy is the voters. And if you get lynched, that's 100% chance that you die, instead of 50%. Get it?

3) What if we go to lynch someone and that person is your sibling?

2) @bold, yeah that's why I was so terrified at first. But now that some people posted reason and town has figured things out, I'm more confident that doctor will protect us from a 2 for 1 kill.

3 is possible, but it's 1 chance of probably I don't know, assuming a 4-man team anti-town and maybe 2 3rd parties, plus not targetting me, minus Basil, that's 1 chance in 19-8. 1 chance out of 11 of hitting my sibling. Good luck. And that's not to say the doctor may anticipate and also chose to protect the most likely candidate. It's all up in the air at that point.

1) It DOESN'T MATTER becuase if you are protected, then they will just target someone else, and that person will likely be your sibling and then you'll die ANYWAY. Look at it from a mafia standpoint, say me and linkz are mafia.

-Hey linkz let's target happy.
-No you fool, Happy is going to be protected!
- So what?
-So then we'll lose a kill, let's kill trucks instead, he's a good player and probably has a role too.
-OK that sounds good, let's kill trucks

The doctor:
Derpdederp: I will protect happy because he's a sibling.

Morning: Someone is dead, doctor picked the wrong person.
(Unless trucks is your sibling, in which case, now you are both dead)

2) Your thinking is so short term! We might have a lynch today, but whatabout tomorrow!?! You will be just as suspicious, and unless we get some great info, you will be up for lynch AGAIN.

3) I said "what if we LYNCH your teammate" not what if he's killed at night.

@3, sorry lots to read and lots of questions to answer I'm getting a little overwhelmed. To answer 3, it is possible, but highly unlikely. Let's just say there are two people who are likely to get lynched today, and he isn't one of them.

2) Tomorrow we will have more details. Your thinking is more short-term than mine as wonk, nen, linkz and pezus have also suggested that a day will give us more hints on all the cases presented this far.

1) That logic goes both ways, the doctor can also anticipate. It's a vaccuous argument.



hatmoza said:


You say that if this behavior is new to you. I believe the only reason you said that is because you know the table's gonna turn once I prove my ability is real, and it shows that Dolphin flips scum because everything is gonna start leading back to you.

Out of everything you could of held against me you used that as an excuse to pre-label me as scum when tomorrow starts. I got news for you. Unless scum kills me tonight it's going to be a very, very long day for you tomorrow.

I'm just getting started, and you personally know how persuasive I can be when I'm town.

You are a threat as either town or mafia. How's that sound, Hat?

When people ask you serious questions you respond with jokes. Is it because you like to joke or because your actions are so scummy that you have no excuse?

According to trick room, it "allows slower pokemon to go first". It really does not correspond with your move at all.



TruckOSaurus said:
GODAMMIT I'll never catch up reading from work!!! I'll return tonight and hopefully I'll be able to catch up then or maybe I'll just vote for the person with the highest post count to shut him up.

This is not fair because some of us are more under fire than others, despite trying to stay quiet. I have been trying you should notice. I've also tried to be less insulting for you. If you do this I'm never playing again.