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happydolphin said:
He is making three glaring mistakes pezus, you would have to give him too much credibility than town can afford:

1) He wants the sibling to out himself. That is deadly!
2) He wants to lynch a claimed sibling, whether it's true or not. That's already horribly bad.
3) He didn't get the town PM (that should be clear by now).

What more are we asking for?

I've already explained to you several things but here they are again.

1) You and your sibling are valuable to the mafia because you are suspected by many here, and they would prefer that town lynch you rather than them killing you. As time goes on, and your sibling does not appear, it's going to look more and more like you fabricated the sibling claim. I'm not saying that you did, but on say, day 4 when people are really scratching their heads for evidence, and the game is accellerating, people are simply going to gravitate closer and closer to the question mark, which is you. When we lynch you (if you are town), then mafia will "win the battle"... meaning that they didn't have to waste a kill on the siblings, town killed you for them. Get it?

2) The way to prevent this is to claim your sibling. This removes the question mark and allows us to play without having to wonder about who it is. The questino right now isn't WHO is your sibling, but DO YOU EVEN HAVE a sibling. That's what people do not like about your claim.

3) The sibling outing himself is not deadly, because mafia will kill you one way or another. The question is, do we do it for them, or do we make them work for it. Sure dying seems like a horrible loss to town, but what's worse, the town lynching you when they could have lynched a scum instead? Or a mafia killing two noobs instead of an experienced scum catcher? The best outcome of the four is mafia choosing to kill you instead of a power player. The worst is town lynching you.

4) I think you are town. Everything you've said makes sense from a town standpoint, but the problem is that I can only hold so much sway in the lynch process. If I can't find good evidence against a mafia, you could have the spotlight, and then we'll have 4-5 noobs all thinking that your insults and lack of partner mean that you are mafia. On day 4 or 5, all it will take to lynch you is votes from 5 or 6 noobs. I won't be able to help you, understand?



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Notes up to page 31:

- Not sure what to make of hatmoza's claim of Twilight Vig. It's consistant with his earlier question about who would we kill if given to opportunity. In fact, I don't really doubt his roleclaim since lying about it would make no sense since he promised a twilight kill today which would paint a huge target on him if it didn't happen, the only part that bugs me is that I don't agree with his choice of target, I'd rather have him kill radish.



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theprof00 said:
happydolphin said:
He is making three glaring mistakes pezus, you would have to give him too much credibility than town can afford:

1) He wants the sibling to out himself. That is deadly!
2) He wants to lynch a claimed sibling, whether it's true or not. That's already horribly bad.
3) He didn't get the town PM (that should be clear by now).

What more are we asking for?

I've already explained to you several things but here they are again.

1) You and your sibling are valuable to the mafia because you are suspected by many here, and they would prefer that town lynch you rather than them killing you. As time goes on, and your sibling does not appear, it's going to look more and more like you fabricated the sibling claim. I'm not saying that you did, but on say, day 4 when people are really scratching their heads for evidence, and the game is accellerating, people are simply going to gravitate closer and closer to the question mark, which is you. When we lynch you (if you are town), then mafia will "win the battle"... meaning that they didn't have to waste a kill on the siblings, town killed you for them. Get it?

2) The way to prevent this is to claim your sibling. This removes the question mark and allows us to play without having to wonder about who it is. The questino right now isn't WHO is your sibling, but DO YOU EVEN HAVE a sibling. That's what people do not like about your claim.

3) The sibling outing himself is not deadly, because mafia will kill you one way or another. The question is, do we do it for them, or do we make them work for it. Sure dying seems like a horrible loss to town, but what's worse, the town lynching you when they could have lynched a scum instead? Or a mafia killing two noobs instead of an experienced scum catcher? The best outcome of the four is mafia choosing to kill you instead of a power player. The worst is town lynching you.

4) I think you are town. Everything you've said makes sense from a town standpoint, but the problem is that I can only hold so much sway in the lynch process. If I can't find good evidence against a mafia, you could have the spotlight, and then we'll have 4-5 noobs all thinking that your insults and lack of partner mean that you are mafia. On day 4 or 5, all it will take to lynch you is votes from 5 or 6 noobs. I won't be able to help you, understand?

 

None of this is going to matter prof. It's been said six ways from Sunday in one form or another. I'll remove that question mark - I will kill him and nothiong is going to change my mind. Then the town can deal with me tomorrow. I'll face the music if I'm wrong about him. But I don't want a lynch to be wasted on me today and tomorrow.



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pezus said:

We should probably lynch him before he has a chance to kill HD, whether it be with his mafia buddies or his "vigilante" role.


Not even a lynch can stop me from killing Dolphin. The sooner you except I'm town and that a lynch will be worthless against me, the better.

I'm sure the real scum are finding this pretty amusing.



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accept*


It's been a while since I've been this close to a lynch...



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Hat role claim was obviously bogus specially after the "other flavour for vigilant" part
Twilight Vig, as in i cant kill during the day and death cant be prevented during the night

I never heard of this role before.

I thought he was just trying to break Happy D, and i thought maybe it will be for the best.
So in that regard I'm not too sure hat is scum, because the role claimed was never his to begin with

Hat is stubborn i can picture him dying before admitting he went too far in his game.

Also HoS: ryan for not realizing hat mistake after Proff post.



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hatmoza said:
pezus said:

We should probably lynch him before he has a chance to kill HD, whether it be with his mafia buddies or his "vigilante" role.

Not even a lynch can stop me from killing Dolphin. The sooner you except I'm town and that a lynch will be worthless against me, the better.

I'm sure the real scum are finding this pretty amusing.

I knew it....



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nen-suer said:
hatmoza said:
pezus said:

We should probably lynch him before he has a chance to kill HD, whether it be with his mafia buddies or his "vigilante" role.

Not even a lynch can stop me from killing Dolphin. The sooner you except I'm town and that a lynch will be worthless against me, the better.

I'm sure the real scum are finding this pretty amusing.

I knew it....

Are you referring to:

"Hat is stubborn i can picture him dying before admitting he went too far in his game."



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hatmoza said:
nen-suer said:

I knew it....

Are you referring to:

"Hat is stubborn i can picture him dying before admitting he went too far in his game."

*nods*

Not even a lynch will stop me made me lol......



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phew caught up with the posts..I'm leaning a bit towards hatmoza and Ryan and mafia at the moment

I will read the rest of the posts again after I'm done with my midterm lol



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