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theprof00 on 15 March 2012
TruckOSaurus said:
theprof00 said:
sethnintendo said:
pezus said:

The witcher 2 could have used a few months more in the oven, even though it was a great game. Blizzard makes games that sell for years and even decades because they focus so much on quality and balance.


So they are like Nintendo but slower.

You know that both Diablo 2 and starcraft :BW still sell new copies to this day, right?

Really the only comparison nintendo has is ocarina, and that's gone through three releases, and two developments, and one complete refresh, and half the sales.

Old Nintendo games still sell well on the Virtual Console so I'd say they offer a similar kind of long lasting quality.

"During the quarter, NPD said Activision Blizzard had four top-10 PC games in the US with Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 and World of Warcraft: Wrath of the Lich King, World of Warcraft Battle Chest and Diablo Battle Chest."

This is in 2010. Tracking in the top ten PC game sales for the year...STILL.

Diablo 1 and 2 have sold over 17 million copies as of 2009.



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VicViper on 15 March 2012
theprof00 said:

Sorry, I didn't realize we were comparing games that are bundled with a system to a game that has to be bought and often pirated.


Bundled? Mario all star wii was bundled? Think you're mistaken. Snes game was, but many many copies were sold without bundle - may I say, most of them?

Ah, yes Mario was never ever pirated too! I suppose my Znes emulator is officially supported by Nintendo. Send me the bill, Nintendo! I owe you 150.000 dollars.

And of course, there's virtua console sales too. So make that Diablo 19 in my original post!



TruckOSaurus on 15 March 2012
theprof00 said:
TruckOSaurus said:
theprof00 said:
sethnintendo said:
pezus said:

The witcher 2 could have used a few months more in the oven, even though it was a great game. Blizzard makes games that sell for years and even decades because they focus so much on quality and balance.


So they are like Nintendo but slower.

You know that both Diablo 2 and starcraft :BW still sell new copies to this day, right?

Really the only comparison nintendo has is ocarina, and that's gone through three releases, and two developments, and one complete refresh, and half the sales.

Old Nintendo games still sell well on the Virtual Console so I'd say they offer a similar kind of long lasting quality.

"During the quarter, NPD said Activision Blizzard had four top-10 PC games in the US with Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 and World of Warcraft: Wrath of the Lich King, World of Warcraft Battle Chest and Diablo Battle Chest."

This is in 2010. Tracking in the top ten PC game sales for the year...STILL.

Diablo 1 and 2 have sold over 17 million copies as of 2009.

Like I said, they have a similar kind of long lasting quality.



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theprof00 on 15 March 2012
VicViper said:
theprof00 said:

Sorry, I didn't realize we were comparing games that are bundled with a system to a game that has to be bought and often pirated.


Bundled? Mario all star wii was bundled? Think you're mistaken. Snes game was, but many many copies were sold without bundle - may I say, most of them?

Ah, yes Mario was never ever pirated too! I suppose my Znes emulator is officially supported by Nintendo. Send me the bill, Nintendo! I owe you 150.000 dollars.

And of course, there's virtua console sales too. So make that Diablo 19 in my original post!

LOL this is ridiculous. There is nothing worse than arguing facts. Mario all star SNES was bundled for like a couple years dude. Wii couldn't even sell 2.5 m of them you think SNES sold 10!?

Super mario all-stars was bundled from really 1994 and on.

It's been remade 3 times. ie; it's been completely reprogrammed 3 times. It's been released 5 times.

Super mario advance -5m
Mario allstars SNES- 10m
All-stars wii- 2.5m

17.5M

virtual console?

diablo 1 and 2. Made once each, total of 2 times. Programmed twice. Released twice.

17m as of 2009. Still on NPD top PC games in America as of 2010.

Daiblo 17? They are almost even at just 2!



theprof00 on 15 March 2012
TruckOSaurus said:
theprof00 said:
TruckOSaurus said:
theprof00 said:
sethnintendo said:
pezus said:

The witcher 2 could have used a few months more in the oven, even though it was a great game. Blizzard makes games that sell for years and even decades because they focus so much on quality and balance.


So they are like Nintendo but slower.

You know that both Diablo 2 and starcraft :BW still sell new copies to this day, right?

Really the only comparison nintendo has is ocarina, and that's gone through three releases, and two developments, and one complete refresh, and half the sales.

Old Nintendo games still sell well on the Virtual Console so I'd say they offer a similar kind of long lasting quality.

"During the quarter, NPD said Activision Blizzard had four top-10 PC games in the US with Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 and World of Warcraft: Wrath of the Lich King, World of Warcraft Battle Chest and Diablo Battle Chest."

This is in 2010. Tracking in the top ten PC game sales for the year...STILL.

Diablo 1 and 2 have sold over 17 million copies as of 2009.

Like I said, they have a similar kind of long lasting quality.

Sry trucks, I have no problem with your point. I'm responding to seth and you just kinda stepped in the middle of the fire. :D

Blizz is not "like nintendo but slower", they make games that break records and persist. Do you know anyone who spends years just playing a single game? I can only name a couple, one would be coutnerstrike, and the other would be a blizzard game.



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VicViper on 15 March 2012
theprof00 said:
VicViper said:
theprof00 said:

Sorry, I didn't realize we were comparing games that are bundled with a system to a game that has to be bought and often pirated.


Bundled? Mario all star wii was bundled? Think you're mistaken. Snes game was, but many many copies were sold without bundle - may I say, most of them?

Ah, yes Mario was never ever pirated too! I suppose my Znes emulator is officially supported by Nintendo. Send me the bill, Nintendo! I owe you 150.000 dollars.

And of course, there's virtua console sales too. So make that Diablo 19 in my original post!

LOL this is ridiculous. There is nothing worse than arguing facts. Mario all star SNES was bundled for like a couple years dude. Wii couldn't even sell 2.5 m of them you think SNES sold 10!?

Super mario all-stars was bundled from really 1994 and on.

It's been remade 3 times. ie; it's been completely reprogrammed 3 times. It's been released 5 times.

Super mario advance -5m
Mario allstars SNES- 10m
All-stars wii- 2.5m

17.5M

virtual console?

diablo 1 and 2. Made once each, total of 2 times. Programmed twice. Released twice.

17m as of 2009. Still on NPD top PC games in America as of 2010.

Daiblo 17? They are almost even at just 2!

You forgot the other Mario Advances... and of course, there's the original releases. Guess the 17 million mario 3 were all bundled also.

And yeah, I believe at least more than 5 million ("most of") sales of the Mario All Stars were not bundled. It was a huge hit back then.

Completely reprogrammed 3 times? Yeah, keep telling yourself that. You're insulting Mario sales power, you know it.

BTW, not that I doubt it, but where did you get that 17 million number? And wouldn't you say Diablo 1 was bundled with 2, cause I don't thnk you can buy it separately.



theprof00 on 15 March 2012
VicViper said:
theprof00 said:
VicViper said:
theprof00 said:

Sorry, I didn't realize we were comparing games that are bundled with a system to a game that has to be bought and often pirated.


Bundled? Mario all star wii was bundled? Think you're mistaken. Snes game was, but many many copies were sold without bundle - may I say, most of them?

Ah, yes Mario was never ever pirated too! I suppose my Znes emulator is officially supported by Nintendo. Send me the bill, Nintendo! I owe you 150.000 dollars.

And of course, there's virtua console sales too. So make that Diablo 19 in my original post!

LOL this is ridiculous. There is nothing worse than arguing facts. Mario all star SNES was bundled for like a couple years dude. Wii couldn't even sell 2.5 m of them you think SNES sold 10!?

Super mario all-stars was bundled from really 1994 and on.

It's been remade 3 times. ie; it's been completely reprogrammed 3 times. It's been released 5 times.

Super mario advance -5m
Mario allstars SNES- 10m
All-stars wii- 2.5m

17.5M

virtual console?

diablo 1 and 2. Made once each, total of 2 times. Programmed twice. Released twice.

17m as of 2009. Still on NPD top PC games in America as of 2010.

Daiblo 17? They are almost even at just 2!

You forgot the other Mario Advances... and of course, the thera's original releases. Guess the 17 million mario 3 were all bundled also.

And yeah, I believe at least more than 5 million ("most of") sales of the Mario All Stars were not bundled. It was a huge hit back then.

Completely reprogrammed 3 times? Yeah, keep telling yourself that. You're insulting Mario sales power, you know it.

BTW, not that I doubt it, but where did you get that 17 million number? And wouldn't you say Diablo 1 was bundled with 2, cause I don't thnk you can buy it separately.

Oh you want to talk about the Mario franchise completely?

How completely bafflingly odd considering you're comparing a series from 25 years ago with one from 15 years ago, and 15 games compared to 2.

 

I guess Nintendo wins *this* round.

You want a better competitor? World of warcraft sells the equivalent of 10m mario games at 50 dollars a peice, every year, since 2004.



theprof00 on 15 March 2012

fyi, I'm not saying Mario is a bad franchise, just credit where credit is due, and stop hating. (not aimed at you, but everyone here saying "poo poo it's taking so long".



VicViper on 15 March 2012
theprof00 said:
VicViper said:
theprof00 said:
VicViper said:
theprof00 said:

Sorry, I didn't realize we were comparing games that are bundled with a system to a game that has to be bought and often pirated.


Bundled? Mario all star wii was bundled? Think you're mistaken. Snes game was, but many many copies were sold without bundle - may I say, most of them?

Ah, yes Mario was never ever pirated too! I suppose my Znes emulator is officially supported by Nintendo. Send me the bill, Nintendo! I owe you 150.000 dollars.

And of course, there's virtua console sales too. So make that Diablo 19 in my original post!

LOL this is ridiculous. There is nothing worse than arguing facts. Mario all star SNES was bundled for like a couple years dude. Wii couldn't even sell 2.5 m of them you think SNES sold 10!?

Super mario all-stars was bundled from really 1994 and on.

It's been remade 3 times. ie; it's been completely reprogrammed 3 times. It's been released 5 times.

Super mario advance -5m
Mario allstars SNES- 10m
All-stars wii- 2.5m

17.5M

virtual console?

diablo 1 and 2. Made once each, total of 2 times. Programmed twice. Released twice.

17m as of 2009. Still on NPD top PC games in America as of 2010.

Daiblo 17? They are almost even at just 2!

You forgot the other Mario Advances... and of course, the thera's original releases. Guess the 17 million mario 3 were all bundled also.

And yeah, I believe at least more than 5 million ("most of") sales of the Mario All Stars were not bundled. It was a huge hit back then.

Completely reprogrammed 3 times? Yeah, keep telling yourself that. You're insulting Mario sales power, you know it.

BTW, not that I doubt it, but where did you get that 17 million number? And wouldn't you say Diablo 1 was bundled with 2, cause I don't thnk you can buy it separately.

Oh you want to talk about the Mario franchise completely?

How completely bafflingly odd considering you're comparing a series from 25 years ago with one from 15 years ago, and 15 games compared to 2.

 

I guess Nintendo wins *this* round.

You want a better competitor? World of warcraft sells the equivalent of 10m mario games at 50 dollars a peice, every year, since 2004.


I'm not comparing franchises... I'm saying the original Mario Games sell a lot even to this day. And rereleases sell more than diablo. Anyway, what about that 17 million figure?

And fun fact, did you remember you could not play diablo 2 in 800x600 originally? Thank god for expansions and patches possible on PC or else blizzard would have to do the unthinkable: completely reprogram it!

Wow is much bigger than Diablo, what's your point?



Heavenly_King on 15 March 2012

Blizzard dudes are really slow making games.

THAT IS A FACT!



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