| Chark said: Alright ideas, but your title could do for a rewording... |
Its a headline, i want to to grab people attention. By "save", i'm not implying that the system will otherwise be discontinued but that it will fall far short of its potential and of any handheld released in recent years.
kowenicki said:
No... you are just being defensive about a console you are somewhat precious about. ....and can you show me the "doomed financially" threads from 2006, 2007 , 2008 or 2009 please? Ther VIta IS already in trouble and this is a perfectly reasonable thread where people are entitled to make suggestions. If all subjects are out of bounds to anyone other than thiose who can actually directly influence then you may aswell close the forum. |
No, I'm not being defensive about Vita (I don't own one or plan to buy one anytime soon). I said the exact same thing about the 3DS when everyone called doom about it (I don't have a 3DS nor do I plan to get one most likely ever) why? Because I'm capable of looking beyond the here and now.
I don't know how to search in the VGC archieves if I'm 100% percent honest, I tried entering texts from thread titles that I know existed not so long ago into the "search box" but for whatever reason, they never appear so I'm probably doing something wrong. With that said, am I the only one that remembers threads that would pop up every now and then and some smart arse would reply with "final nail in the coffin" or something similar, I am positive I'm not making that up.
This isn't me being "defensive" just calling for common sense and calm.
PS One/2/p/3slim/Vita owner. I survived the Apocalyps3/Collaps3 and all I got was this lousy signature.
Xbox One: What are you doing Dave?
| Michael-5 said: Your far too hopeful, Dragon Quest X on PSV? PSV doesn't use a Wii-mote, the controls would be messed up. Imagine playing Skyward Sward with a traditional controller, it would ruin the game. Also Final Fantasy Type-Zero, why would Square remake the game for PSV when it won't even port the title to PSP? In order to remake it, they would need to make the game from ground up again. They are better off making a new PSV exclusive. However you are right about a video game Archive. One reason why I love to play my DS and GBA is because the games on the system are either ports/remakes of old games (Final Fantasy 1,2,4-6 for GBA, Dragon Quest for DS) or a lot of the game available are sequals to old IP's, and give a retro feel (Dragon Quest IX, Golden Sun, Fire Emblem, Metroid Fusion, Pokemon, etc). Sony has a big resevour of PS1 and PS2 exclusives, exclusives which could be remade for the PSV, like how Tales of the Abyss was remade for 3DS. There is an issue though. Sony won't do this either because Square-Enix supports Nintendo more in handhelds, or because they don't have many 1st party exclusives to remake (They could start with The Legend of Dragoon). This is why Nintendo is better for handheld gaming, and this is why a Nintendo hand held sells better. What you're saying is that if Sony wasn't Sony and made a different system, the PSV could be saved, but that's just not going to happen. However I don't think PSV is doomed, it just won't sell that differently then PSP, it's going to rock in Japan.
P.S. Memory....This is a cash grab. Sony planned to make a $300-$400 portale system, this is how they justify selling a $250 platform. Every company does it. |
R&D for a proprietary format is expensive.
Sony stated themselves that these memory cards were necessary to try and prevent piracy. This is obviously their main reason. Piracy killed the PSP in western markets.
kowenicki said:
No... you are just being defensive about a console you are somewhat precious about. ....and can you show me the "doomed financially" threads from 2006, 2007 , 2008 or 2009 please? Ther VIta IS already in trouble and this is a perfectly reasonable thread where people are entitled to make suggestions. If all subjects are out of bounds to anyone other than those who can actually directly influence then you may aswell close the forum. |
We get it dude. You hate Vita.
@bold
Funny how you say that when just 2 days ago you told me to leave the Microsoft forum since I wasn't worshipping the Xbox 360. Don't be a hypocrite.
kowenicki said:
The 3ds WAS also in trouble... if you knew a huge price cut was coming to save it then I am very impressed. The Vita doesnt have the luxury of a price cut coming any time soon unless Sony want to take a major haircut. Ninty could afford that, Sony cant. Financial doom threads started in 2010... they have merit and Sony themselves have been taking MASSIVE measures to reduce costs and improve margins since 2010 so they obviously agree. |
If that's the case then I apologise for suggesting otherwise, but I think it can be argued that it's not the end of days just yet because the people actually running the company might know a little more than the folks here, only thing you ever read here are sensationalistic posts that will have you believe that the world is ending.
PS One/2/p/3slim/Vita owner. I survived the Apocalyps3/Collaps3 and all I got was this lousy signature.
Xbox One: What are you doing Dave?
| Squilliam said: Actually they shouldn't even try to serve two masters. They can't please everyone and based off the price and market strategy they haven't decided to. They know the whiny hardcore gamer will buy it regardless because it is the only game in town for that crowd, they can poop on people as much as they want and the hardcore gamers will call it fertilizer to grow games from. So for that reason alone the price of the memory cards etc is pretty good.So effectively they need to give lipservice to these people whilst directing the rest of their resources aside from a few token efforts towards marginal customers whom could go either to an iPod Touch or 3DS.
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I personally don't think the majority of the hardcore market need a dedicated portable gaming system, therefore sony can't assume their safe. I haven't bought a Vita yet, the cards are a bloody rip off... but that doesn't mean that i drift the the ipod touch, i already own one and the experience is not comparable, therefore my ownership is not exclusive one or the other. The 3DS is the actual competition but i think theres a strong enough difference in tastes for both to coexist. The marginal customers you refer to would probably make up the majority of any system which manages to sell more then 30m.
Some nice ideas teigaga!
I especially see the potential for your third point...
Im just wondering what sort of costs would be involved in making that come true? And would those costs be off set by the positives that comes from it? sounds like a bit of a gamble to me.
how many people here have a 3DS, Vita or intend on buying one?
| teigaga said: how many people here have a 3DS, Vita or intend on buying one? |
3DS no/no
Vita no/yes
PS One/2/p/3slim/Vita owner. I survived the Apocalyps3/Collaps3 and all I got was this lousy signature.
Xbox One: What are you doing Dave?
Ajescent said:
Vita no/yes |
I own neither right now but plan on getting both at later dates. The 3DS to me feels like an unfinished piece of hardware, i'm waiting for a new model or at for them to make the games digitally available. I'll probably pick one up by next spring.
As for the Vita i was very close to buying this at launch, even with the extortionate memory cards. I was going to buy all the psp games i've missed but in the Uk they didn't release the 32GB card, so i thought i'd wait to see if they'd release them anytime soon. But now i think i'll wait till E3 incase of a price drop of either the cards or the system itself.
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