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DirtyP2002 on 02 February 2012

Now cut the price in 2012, MS!

 

Sales will jump significantly together with Halo 4. The only thing stopping it could be a Xbox 3 release.



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Wh1pL4shL1ve_007 on 02 February 2012
LivingMetal said:
sales2099 said:
DeduS said:
zhao3gold said:
The shipment figure is way more important than sold through figures for the console manufacturers. Why do so many people here only care about the sold through numbers?

Check the OP and it seems MS won everything than SONY in 2011.


Because that's what this site is about - sold through numbers. The whole "who won 2011" discussion was about sold through as well. So we still have no clue who actually won and we probably never will.

 

Seems even in defeat the main spin is "but teh sell through rate". Well never get an idea until mid april so until then, lets all accept that MS won, unless theres an underlying PS3 bias that refuses to give up lol.

 

But seriously MS won in every category: company wide profits, gaming division profits, more shipped, more shipped in calendar year, YOY growth.

I mean cmon lol


Despite Microsoft winning "in every category," somehow it doesn't deter my enjoyment of the Atelier series.  And let's not forget that it was both PS3 and Xbox 360 fanboys who were arguing over the "sold to customer" and it being more important than "sold to retailer" which is more important by the way.  Please stop being so biased over this.  It's sound reasoning which refuses to "give up."

" Please stop being so biased over this. "

Sorry but I just couldnt help it. 

I still remmember your comment over the Xbox 360 Foxconn suicide threats. 

"I guess thats what happens when you support an "American" console"

Haahahahaa

It maybe a very innappropriate comment but it was well worth it. 



Yay!!!

Argh_College on 02 February 2012
DirtyP2002 said:

Now cut the price in 2012, MS!

 

Sales will jump significantly together with Halo 4. The only thing stopping it could be a Xbox 3 release.

Halo 4, RySe, Star Wars Kinect, Fable For Kinect, Witcher 2, GTA V, BioShock Infinite, Mass Effect 3, Alan Wake XBLA, Resident Evil 6 and some other games.

That with a Price Cut and we could see 360 having a beast year once again with >15M Shipped.

I really need Xbox 720 :s



Jexy on 02 February 2012

Well no question now that Microsoft won in every category that matters over Sony... and it wasn't even close as far as $ goes with one being big positive and one big negative.

And Seece is right, if they still ship near 1.5 mill first quarter, then it's obvious they won 2011.

So overall, what happens? Does PS3 get adjusted down a bit in the meantime? And if it turns out MS does ship their normal amount Q1 then numbers get adjusted even further in favor of the 360?



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Argh_College on 02 February 2012
pezus said:
Argh_College said:
DirtyP2002 said:

Now cut the price in 2012, MS!

 

Sales will jump significantly together with Halo 4. The only thing stopping it could be a Xbox 3 release.

Halo 4, RySe, Star Wars Kinect, Fable For Kinect, Witcher 2, GTA V, BioShock Infinite, Mass Effect 3, Alan Wake XBLA, Resident Evil 6 and some other games.

That with a Price Cut and we could see 360 having a beast year once again with >15M Shipped.

I really need Xbox 720 :s

I'm not sure what you're listing here. Are you listing all AAA 360 games this year (multiplatform or otherwise) or just all that you think will move hardware?

im saying that combination of games can result in a beast year for 360. Bigger and better library combined with some more Casual Kinect Games and a Price Cut should be enough to keep 360 going forward.



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Wh1pL4shL1ve_007 on 02 February 2012
Argh_College said:
DirtyP2002 said:

Now cut the price in 2012, MS!

 

Sales will jump significantly together with Halo 4. The only thing stopping it could be a Xbox 3 release.

Halo 4, RySe, Star Wars Kinect, Fable For Kinect, Witcher 2, GTA V, BioShock Infinite, Mass Effect 3, Alan Wake XBLA, Resident Evil 6 and some other games.

That with a Price Cut and we could see 360 having a beast year once again with >15M Shipped.

I really need Xbox 720 :s

Ghost recon is also being developed for the 360



Yay!!!

MARCUSDJACKSON on 02 February 2012

honestly i expected this. sony only had one good bundle



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zhao3gold on 02 February 2012

I still remembered that many people who are in favour of PS3 predicted PS3 will be shipped at least 7.0M+ according to their holiday sales PR. But now only 6.5M shipped in the last Q that is much lower than a lot of people's expectation. Can you deny this? No, you can't.

Besides, many people who are in favor of PS3 said MS lied in CES 2012 after MS released their FY report (66M -> 65.8M). But do you guys still remember that SONY used to said they are a bit of ahead to reach their projection sales in their holiday sales PR? Now SONY even lowered their projection from 15M to 14M. Why does nobody say here SONY was lying to the industry?

According to both FY report, MS won in every category. Why is it so difficult to accept this truth?



LivingMetal on 02 February 2012
Wh1pL4shL1ve_007 said:
LivingMetal said:
sales2099 said:
DeduS said:
zhao3gold said:
The shipment figure is way more important than sold through figures for the console manufacturers. Why do so many people here only care about the sold through numbers?

Check the OP and it seems MS won everything than SONY in 2011.


Because that's what this site is about - sold through numbers. The whole "who won 2011" discussion was about sold through as well. So we still have no clue who actually won and we probably never will.

 

Seems even in defeat the main spin is "but teh sell through rate". Well never get an idea until mid april so until then, lets all accept that MS won, unless theres an underlying PS3 bias that refuses to give up lol.

 

But seriously MS won in every category: company wide profits, gaming division profits, more shipped, more shipped in calendar year, YOY growth.

I mean cmon lol


Despite Microsoft winning "in every category," somehow it doesn't deter my enjoyment of the Atelier series.  And let's not forget that it was both PS3 and Xbox 360 fanboys who were arguing over the "sold to customer" and it being more important than "sold to retailer" which is more important by the way.  Please stop being so biased over this.  It's sound reasoning which refuses to "give up."

" Please stop being so biased over this. "

Sorry but I just couldnt help it. 

I still remmember your comment over the Xbox 360 Foxconn suicide threats. 

"I guess thats what happens when you support an "American" console"

Haahahahaa

It maybe a very innappropriate comment but it was well worth it. 

I wasn't the one who believed it.  It's not my fault for the disbeliefs of others just because I commented on them.



Jexy on 03 February 2012
pezus said:
Jexy said:
Well no question now that Microsoft won in every category that matters over Sony... and it wasn't even close as far as $ goes with one being big positive and one big negative.

And Seece is right, if they still ship near 1.5 mill first quarter, then it's obvious they won 2011.

So overall, what happens? Does PS3 get adjusted down a bit in the meantime? And if it turns out MS does ship their normal amount Q1 then numbers get adjusted even further in favor of the 360?

Uh, so you think Sony overshipped but not MS when all signs point in the other direction. VGC numbers showed 1.7m on shelves as of the end of 2011 and 2.07 360s. You want to adjust 360 up to say...a difference of 1.7m and PS3 down to 2.07m? Makes no sense

I asked 3 questions.  You provided no answers, accused me of things I did not say, and didn't make any sense doing it.  Congradulations.  You win the derp of the day award.



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