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kitler53 on 25 January 2012
pezus said:
So Xbox 720 is 6 times as powerful as Xbox 360, Wii U is 2 times as powerful as Xbox 360 ergo Xbox 720 will be 3 times as powerful as Wii U and YET only 20%? Mind blown


xbox360 * 2 = WiiU

xbox360 * 6 = xbox720

WiiU *1.2 = xbox720 = xbox360 * 6  =>  WiiU = xbox360 *5

xbox360 * 2 = WiiU = xbox360 *5  => 1 = 5/2

 

...mind blown.



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happydolphin on 25 January 2012
Wyrdness said:
happydolphin said:
Wyrdness said:
happydolphin said:

Now you understand why I put a big confused face! ;) They needed to clarify the confusion with a letter it was so bad lol

Arnie always looks confused whether he's shooting people or other people's wives.

lol, must be the language barrier :P


The point is that picture didn't really get the initial point across due to it being him, he always has that face on it's no different to if you posted a screen of him in commando.

Dude, give it a rest. >:E Nobody gives a damn I just put his face, confused, commando or not, for giggles and to show my actual face (that's what it was) when I read the news. Now shush!



Play4Fun on 25 January 2012
o_O.Q said:
Play4Fun said:
o_O.Q said:
lol it seems as if for some people the rumours are only believable when the wii u is said to be considerably more powerful
i actually remember a few weeks back one of the sources saying it may only be 1.5 times more powerful than the ps3
but whatever we'll just have to wait a few more weeks to see


LOL, it seems for some people the rumours are only believable if the Wii U is said to be barely more powerful or equal to current gen.

Oh, and can I get this supposed rumour you remember from a few weeks back with a source sayingit was only 1.5 times more powerful than PS3?

i never said i believed in any of the rumours regarding power so far so its pretty stupid for you to imply so

here is the rumour is was reffering to :

http://www.product-reviews.net/2011/12/03/nintendo-wii-u-specs-reportedly-50-more-powerful-than-xbox-360/

...you probably had on your blinders at the time that this one was going around so i'll excuse you


Lol. So it's the rumour from June of last year you are referring to.Okay.

 



kitler53 on 25 January 2012
ClassicGamingWizzz said:
"Report: Wii U has twice the power of Xbox 360, still not enough"

i think is power enough for them to sell 3 times more consoles than the xbox720


...right.  wii isn't even 1.5 times 360 sales right now and the factor is dropping every week.



Wyrdness on 25 January 2012
happydolphin said:
Wyrdness said:
happydolphin said:
Wyrdness said:
happydolphin said:

Now you understand why I put a big confused face! ;) They needed to clarify the confusion with a letter it was so bad lol

Arnie always looks confused whether he's shooting people or other people's wives.

lol, must be the language barrier :P


The point is that picture didn't really get the initial point across due to it being him, he always has that face on it's no different to if you posted a screen of him in commando.

Dude, give it a rest. >:E Nobody gives a damn I just put his face, confused, commando or not, for giggles and to show my actual face (that's what it was) when I read the news. Now shush!

It's you who brought it back up so take your own advice.



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happydolphin on 25 January 2012
Wyrdness said:

It's you who brought it back up so take your own advice.

Hush!



o_O.Q on 25 January 2012
Play4Fun said:
o_O.Q said:
Play4Fun said:
o_O.Q said:
lol it seems as if for some people the rumours are only believable when the wii u is said to be considerably more powerful
i actually remember a few weeks back one of the sources saying it may only be 1.5 times more powerful than the ps3
but whatever we'll just have to wait a few more weeks to see


LOL, it seems for some people the rumours are only believable if the Wii U is said to be barely more powerful or equal to current gen.

Oh, and can I get this supposed rumour you remember from a few weeks back with a source sayingit was only 1.5 times more powerful than PS3?

i never said i believed in any of the rumours regarding power so far so its pretty stupid for you to imply so

here is the rumour is was reffering to :

http://www.product-reviews.net/2011/12/03/nintendo-wii-u-specs-reportedly-50-more-powerful-than-xbox-360/

...you probably had on your blinders at the time that this one was going around so i'll excuse you


Lol. So it's the rumour from June of last year you are referring to.Okay.

 

...the article is dated december but whatever... aside from rumours what further confirmed information has been released since june?



Play4Fun on 25 January 2012
o_O.Q said:
Play4Fun said:
o_O.Q said:
Play4Fun said:
o_O.Q said:
lol it seems as if for some people the rumours are only believable when the wii u is said to be considerably more powerful
i actually remember a few weeks back one of the sources saying it may only be 1.5 times more powerful than the ps3
but whatever we'll just have to wait a few more weeks to see


LOL, it seems for some people the rumours are only believable if the Wii U is said to be barely more powerful or equal to current gen.

Oh, and can I get this supposed rumour you remember from a few weeks back with a source sayingit was only 1.5 times more powerful than PS3?

i never said i believed in any of the rumours regarding power so far so its pretty stupid for you to imply so

here is the rumour is was reffering to :

http://www.product-reviews.net/2011/12/03/nintendo-wii-u-specs-reportedly-50-more-powerful-than-xbox-360/

...you probably had on your blinders at the time that this one was going around so i'll excuse you


Lol. So it's the rumour from June of last year you are referring to.Okay.

 

...the article is dated december but whatever... aside from rumours what further confirmed information has been released since june?


Nintendo have confirmed nothing on Wii U specs.

All I've seen are rumours and hints from sources on GAF.



greenmedic88 on 25 January 2012
HappySqurriel said:
greenmedic88 said:
Play4Fun said:
o_O.Q said:
lol it seems as if for some people the rumours are only believable when the wii u is said to be considerably more powerful
i actually remember a few weeks back one of the sources saying it may only be 1.5 times more powerful than the ps3
but whatever we'll just have to wait a few more weeks to see


LOL, it seems for some people the rumours are only believable if the Wii U is said to be barely more powerful or equal to current gen.

Oh, and can I get this supposed rumour you remember from a few weeks back with a source sayingit was only 1.5 times more powerful than PS3?

Without any hard facts, people feel free to pretty much pull whatever numbers they want out of their asses.

In regards to the Wii U GPU, about the only "fact" I'm inclined to believe is that it will have an R700 based GPU, most likely a modified RV770 which was the commercial equivalent of the ATI's HD4850 from mid 2008. That GPU is easily more powerful than a factor of 1.5 over the RSX in the PS3.

I have seen a few rumors that claimed the Wii U's CPU was only 1.5 times as powerful as the Cell processor but without more details that is kind of a useless comparison ...

When it comes to theoritical processing power and simple benchmarks the Cell processor is one of the most powerful processors available, when it comes to real world in-game performance the Cell processor is surpassed by outdated hardware. The answer to the question "under what conditions is the Wii U's CPU only 50% more powerful than the Cell?" could imply that the Wii U's CPU is relatively unimpressive or remarkably powerful.

Beyond this, most games are not CPU bound so a dramatic increase in processing power on the CPU isn't really much of a benefit at this point in time.

About the only information I've read about the Wii U CPU is that it is another IBM Power chip (confirmed by IBM), rumored to be based upon the Power7, which is currently produced with 4, 6 and 8 cores that run at 4.25 Ghz max (min 3.0 Ghz). It's obviously not going to be a top spec version of the chip given both the Wii U overall production cost and the retail price, but I'm sure it will still be customized/optimized to Nintendo's specifications.

The CPU is a lot more impressive than the R700 based GPU, which is based upon 2008 GPU tech. There's no question the Power7 is a great CPU in existing form. The question is how well it will translate into game performance. I'm expecting to be impressed. But it may well end up being a better number crunching CPU like the CBE, not ideal for games, hobbled by the GPU, or both in the worst case scenario. 

But again, without finalized specifications on how much embedded DRAM is on the Power7 CPU, how much VRAM will be dedicated to the R700 GPU or how much system RAM will be available, or whether it will use a shared memory architecture, any speculation on the "power" of the Wii U is really just that. Without actual numbers behind the hardware, it's pretty pointless to guess numbers as to how many times faster it will be than the Xbox 360 or the PS3 and even more pointless to state numbers compared to the Xbox 3 since there's even less information about that than the Wii U. 



ksv on 25 January 2012

zzzzzzzzzz who cares?

6x more power? What does that even mean? It can find umpteen decimals of pi 6 times faster? Since it's not used for math, but actually games, this means nothing to anybody.

Nintendo realizes this, Sony and Microsoft will probably waste billions in the first years of the generation yet again on hardware that is not necessary. ZZZ