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Seece said:
Happydolphin, case in point. It's a rare thread, it's not off topic to come in here and talk about Rare, get over it.

I've also seen enough from ninty fans talking about Rare to know they loath how they are today (should be irrelevent to them)

It's relevant in terms of the industry. Capitalism is killing talent: you missed that, you missed the central point of the interview.

And has it occured to you that many a Nintendo fan are also fans of other studios, which make games on other platforms?

And even less in your favor, you complain they make less use of their IPs, all that due to business uptightness, yet you say you don't care. Make up your mind dude. Next thing you know you'll have Kinect Sports Seasons coming out of your Viva Piñata! :P



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It's been a sad journey for Rare, to see what they once were and to see what they've been diminished to, the only spark of Rare left was Viva Pinata but even that seems to been abandoned...



Former something....

What was the deal with them and nintendo did rare willingly go to ms



Everyday I'm hustlin'.

 

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DKHustlin said:
What was the deal with them and nintendo did rare willingly go to ms

It all started with the Stamper brothers (Rare founders) selling their 51% shares of Rare to Microsoft. Nintendo, who owned the other 49% then tried to buy Microsoft's share but never did. Instead, they ended up selling their shares to Microsoft.



I get so tired of the hate Rare gets now. THEY WEREN'T THAT SPECTACULAR BACK IN THE DAY! They just stood out as a good "2nd party" developer during the N64 days making games that were very similar to Mario 64. And a lot of Rare lovers were younger then and have rose-tinted memories of something that Rare could NEVER recapture again no matter what because they'd be fighting a nostalgic memory.

Rare has made some average games for the GC, Xbox and 360 unfortunately, but they also have made some great games for the 360 in particular. There is still talent there (don't make such a big deal about talent that has left; it happens at EVERY company as good talent looks for/gets other opportunities) and it'd be crazy to think they're not working on some big things that are taking a long time because they want to get it right (kinda like what was discussed in the interview, oddly enough ...).

Nintendo fans: Rare is never coming back and could never make you feel like you did when you were N64 kid playing Banjo. The market is different, YOU are different. Let it go and just remember the good times you had. Demonizing the new Rare just makes you sound ... less than impressive.



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Darth Tigris said:
I get so tired of the hate Rare gets now. THEY WEREN'T THAT SPECTACULAR BACK IN THE DAY! They just stood out as a good "2nd party" developer during the N64 days making games that were very similar to Mario 64. And a lot of Rare lovers were younger then and have rose-tinted memories of something that Rare could NEVER recapture again no matter what because they'd be fighting a nostalgic memory.

Rare has made some average games for the GC, Xbox and 360 unfortunately, but they also have made some great games for the 360 in particular. There is still talent there (don't make such a big deal about talent that has left; it happens at EVERY company as good talent looks for/gets other opportunities) and it'd be crazy to think they're not working on some big things that are taking a long time because they want to get it right (kinda like what was discussed in the interview, oddly enough ...).

Nintendo fans: Rare is never coming back and could never make you feel like you did when you were N64 kid playing Banjo. The market is different, YOU are different. Let it go and just remember the good times you had. Demonizing the new Rare just makes you sound ... less than impressive.

All right, this is just a pile of trash. My first encounter with Conker's Bad Fur Day was one single year ago, and how many kids do you think played this game? Have you played this game? I think not. As for Banjo, yes, my first encounter was when I was below 10. But, ever since I've always enjoyed it equally as much as I did back then, and I expect to see more games of that kind even in the future. Nostalgia is only a part of the enjoyment, the gameplay is what makes it timeless.

I'm well aware that this company will never be the same as it used to be, but this is not what this thread is about. This thread is about an interview with one of the worlds greatest game creators who takes a look at the past, present and what could have been of the company. Let's keep the discussion within these frames instead of talking down on people and their opinions, shall we?



Everything they touched was gold. ALL HAIL RARE!

ULLLTRAAAAAAAHH COOMBOOOOOO!!!!!!!



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RolStoppable said:
cyberninja45 said:
Everything they touched was gold. ALL HAIL RARE!

ULLLTRAAAAAAAHH COOMBOOOOOO!!!!!!!

No, only Killer Instinct turned into Gold.

Goldeneye to, if you wanna go by actual names.



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IIIIITHE1IIIII said:
DKHustlin said:
What was the deal with them and nintendo did rare willingly go to ms

It all started with the Stamper brothers (Rare founders) selling their 51% shares of Rare to Microsoft. Nintendo, who owned the other 49% then tried to buy Microsoft's share but never did. Instead, they ended up selling their shares to Microsoft.

The Stamper brothers tried to get Nintendo to buy their remaining shares, but Nintendo was not interested.  Then the Stamper brother shopped around, and got offers from Activision and Microsoft.  Activision had the highest bid, but the deal fell through for unknown reasons.  Microsoft jumped at the opportunity.  Legally, Nintendo had a chance to match the offer, but Microsoft's offer was high enough and Nintendo's interest low enough that the deal went through.

Basically, the Stamper brothers did not want to be owners anymore and got out.



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IIIIITHE1IIIII said:
DKHustlin said:
What was the deal with them and nintendo did rare willingly go to ms

It all started with the Stamper brothers (Rare founders) selling their 51% shares of Rare to Microsoft. Nintendo, who owned the other 49% then tried to buy Microsoft's share but never did. Instead, they ended up selling their shares to Microsoft.

The Stamper brothers tried to get Nintendo to buy their remaining shares, but Nintendo was not interested.  Then the Stamper brother shopped around, and got offers from Activision and Microsoft.  Activision had the highest bid, but the deal fell through for unknown reasons.  Microsoft jumped at the opportunity.  Legally, Nintendo had a chance to match the offer, but Microsoft's offer was high enough and Nintendo's interest low enough that the deal went through.

Basically, the Stamper brothers did not want to be owners anymore and got out.


Ah, ok. Thanks for clearing that up :)