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deskpro2k3 said:

I'd say keep guns for the police and soldiers. the days of hunting in the wilds like in the 1800s is over in my opinion.

They should make bullets expansive instead. Like $600 per round. If someone got shot, you know they must have done something to worth a $600 bullet. I wont be surprised if the shooter went back for the bullet.


Spoken like a person who has no clue about the wildlife population that would go out of control if it weren't for hunting season, and spoken like a person who has never hunted for food, which many Americans do.



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Jexy said:
deskpro2k3 said:

I'd say keep guns for the police and soldiers. the days of hunting in the wilds like in the 1800s is over in my opinion.

They should make bullets expansive instead. Like $600 per round. If someone got shot, you know they must have done something to worth a $600 bullet. I wont be surprised if the shooter went back for the bullet.


Spoken like a person who has no clue about the wildlife population that would go out of control if it weren't for hunting season, and spoken like a person who has never hunted for food, which many Americans do.

I don't hunt, but I live in the northeast and I can vouch that the deer population is already out of control.  Besides, venison is delicious



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steverhcp02 said:
KungKras said:
Galaki said:
If you outlaw guns, then only outlaws will have guns. Why can't people understand that?

because it will be harder for outlaws to get guns?

Prohibition. Criminals who desire to own will still own, the only thing outlawing guns does is let criminals know theyre in charge. Outlawing guns would be unspeakably bad for this country. Id reckon to guess that a large chunk of criminal guns are illegal anyways so it changes nothing.

93% according to a 2002 article (linked in my earlier post)



deskpro2k3 said:

I'd say keep guns for the police and soldiers. the days of hunting in the wilds like in the 1800s is over in my opinion.

They should make bullets expansive instead. Like $600 per round. If someone got shot, you know they must have done something to worth a $600 bullet. I wont be surprised if the shooter went back for the bullet.


I see someone is a fan of Chris Rock. 



Jexy said:
Galaki said:
If you outlaw guns, then only outlaws will have guns. Why can't people understand that?

 It defeats crime before it starts. 


Exactly!! Great point.

Police don't prevent murders, they just go find out who did it...whereas a well armed citizens can actually prevent the crime as you said in your story. 



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Jexy said:
deskpro2k3 said:

I'd say keep guns for the police and soldiers. the days of hunting in the wilds like in the 1800s is over in my opinion.

They should make bullets expansive instead. Like $600 per round. If someone got shot, you know they must have done something to worth a $600 bullet. I wont be surprised if the shooter went back for the bullet.


Spoken like a person who has no clue about the wildlife population that would go out of control if it weren't for hunting season, and spoken like a person who has never hunted for food, which many Americans do.

You should know america is a big place, lifestyle is different depending if you're from the cities as oppose the country side. you have your points, i'll acknowledge that.



Andrespetmonkey said:

Well they must be doing something right in scandinavian countries since they tend to have some of the lowest crime rates, best healthcare, best education, highest quality of life, and be among the most peaceful and least corrupt. 

http://nationranking.files.wordpress.com/2011/03/2011-qli2.png

And about the suicide rates...

This is from the Edinburgh university library online resources:

"The myth of Swedish suicide” has its roots in the late-1950s when the American President Dwight D. Eisenhower referred to it in a speech which had been based on an inaccurate briefing. The President had tried to paint a negative picture of Sweden, a nation which - with its cradle-to-grave socialism - had set itself on a post-war neutral stance outside the then embryonic-NATO and American influence. Ever since many people have accepted the picture as fact and perpetuate the myth."

Norway actually ranks lower than USA and Canada among male suicides.

Keep in mind that these countries have very long dark winters, this also atributes to suicides.


One I agree, those Scandanavian countries are some of the best to live in. 

However, they aren't exactly in line with how the USA is at all, nevermind politically, I mean diversity.

Those countries, like most countries in the world that aren't the USA, are not diverse at all.  It's just a bunch of like-minded white people.  The more diversity, the more hatred, and the more crime.  In the USA, black people hate white people, hispanic people hate blacks, white people hate hispanics, etc etc etc.  Other countries do not have to deal with this mix of populations.  Sure, it's a small % of the population who does this, but all that gang crime happens mostly between the low lifes in their all black, all hispanic, and all white gangs.  And they fight eachother.  Even prison divides up into ethnicities.  Sometimes things aren't so pretty when you have uneducated (and unable to be educated) people living in poverty, who resort to animal like behavior in "proving" themselves to be the tough guy.  I mean shoot, the number one way for a black man to die in this country is to be shot, and by another black man. 

Also, the USA is WAY bigger than those countries... so once you have so many cities that are so much larger, etc... crime starts to happen.  I think the rest of Europe right now is proving that those Scandanavian systems don't work on a larger scale. 

Also, not sure where that graph is from... but Egypt being one of the more peaceful countries?  What a joke.



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kanageddaamen said:
Jexy said:
deskpro2k3 said:

I'd say keep guns for the police and soldiers. the days of hunting in the wilds like in the 1800s is over in my opinion.

They should make bullets expansive instead. Like $600 per round. If someone got shot, you know they must have done something to worth a $600 bullet. I wont be surprised if the shooter went back for the bullet.


Spoken like a person who has no clue about the wildlife population that would go out of control if it weren't for hunting season, and spoken like a person who has never hunted for food, which many Americans do.

I don't hunt, but I live in the northeast and I can vouch that the deer population is already out of control.  Besides, venison is delicious

Exactly.  Most dopes go on living their lives thinking those populations stay stagnant without constant human intervention.  If we wanted to be "all natural" and let nature do it's thing, then you wouldn't have farms to feed anyone.



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Jexy said:
kanageddaamen said:
Jexy said:
deskpro2k3 said:

I'd say keep guns for the police and soldiers. the days of hunting in the wilds like in the 1800s is over in my opinion.

They should make bullets expansive instead. Like $600 per round. If someone got shot, you know they must have done something to worth a $600 bullet. I wont be surprised if the shooter went back for the bullet.


Spoken like a person who has no clue about the wildlife population that would go out of control if it weren't for hunting season, and spoken like a person who has never hunted for food, which many Americans do.

I don't hunt, but I live in the northeast and I can vouch that the deer population is already out of control.  Besides, venison is delicious

Exactly.  Most dopes go on living their lives thinking those populations stay stagnant without constant human intervention.  If we wanted to be "all natural" and let nature do it's thing, then you wouldn't have farms to feed anyone.

 

Or perhaps humans is moving in in the deer's natural habitat. another thing to consider



deskpro2k3 said:
Jexy said:
deskpro2k3 said:

I'd say keep guns for the police and soldiers. the days of hunting in the wilds like in the 1800s is over in my opinion.

They should make bullets expansive instead. Like $600 per round. If someone got shot, you know they must have done something to worth a $600 bullet. I wont be surprised if the shooter went back for the bullet.


Spoken like a person who has no clue about the wildlife population that would go out of control if it weren't for hunting season, and spoken like a person who has never hunted for food, which many Americans do.

You should know america is a big place, lifestyle is different depending if you're from the cities as oppose the country side. you have your points, i'll acknowledge that.

I'm the one who is aware of that.  I've been to 40 states and lived all over the world as well.  You don't seem to be aware that the only reason the cities aren't overrun from the suburbs is because of hunting.  Like the other poster said, the northeast, aka, the most densly populated area in the country with the most big cities, is overrun by deer.  That's why all the city kids freak out when there is a deer running around in the streets, because the humans who keep their population in check haven't been able to quite yet.  And because you're not used to seeing them because hunters are doing their job most of the time.



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