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Wonktonodi said:
NoCtiS_NoX said:
Now thinking this through I should Role claim now if Wonk is telling the truth and also if a mafia will be lynch or killed. I will be following him as well.
I am cop with a mafia sibling.
Night 1 I investigated Hat is townie
Linkz and baalz are not so with Linkz trying to defend Rad maybe a mafia aswell.


so who is your sibling?


IDK because he is a mafia. 



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I am actually lucky to have survived this day though because I investigated two not townies.
Again Hat is a townie if up to you guys if you believe me or not since I don't mind being lynch but because we are short in numbers now it's best if we lynch a mafia.



Why are you voting to lynch someone you aren't sure of when you know 2 people to be scum?



Wonktonodi said:
Linkzmax said:

1. I really hate how you're using future information to explain earlier stuff. Fortunately for me and not so much for you, your answer actually contradicts your original statement AND completely missed the obvious.

2. "Lurkers" by nature of the term are reading the thread and still "participating" in the game, just not posting. A lurker is likely to survive longer at night and therefore have more investigations to share when finally claiming. Here's what you missed as being obvious: A normal townie might fear a lurker cop, because with the short days they may not be able to actually claim before being lynched. A normal deputy wouldn't want the cop to die, but shouldn't really fear it either since the power is passed along. But you're even more extreme, as you think the cop isn't even making investigations. 3. Since you seem to think it's so important(and it is, but in the grand scheme of Mafia it isn't really) why wouldn't you try to prevent the power from continuing to be wasted? 4. You should have pushed for a lurker lynch and maybe even urged Spurge(heh) to shoot one of them in order to take it by force. The latter is true whether you would believe the vig claim or not as it's also a means to help prove it finally.

5. It's laughable that you think the cop would outlive you after you claimed, without any real provocation might I add, btw.

6. Furthermore, any cop worth his salt should have investigated you last night. So that if he were to die he could leave town knowing if they could trust your claims or not. I believe it'd be redundant at this point for the cop to claim a guilty scan on you, but in the event I'm wrong they should save you from the gallows.

1. So should I not use the example of what just happend to help explain since the example is now there. If you are trying to go back to my point with MDJ yesterday. When you ask why MDJ I gave you reasons why you should vote him that were current that you are trying to twist into a contradiction.

2. That is also a good reason to not want the cop to be lurking.

3. In this game with such short days and low participation the cop is probably more important than players reads on people. We as a town are doing terrible and so many have said so little it's hard to get readds.

4. I voted for MDJ yesterday, I am not one to really try and tell the Vig what to do although at this point I'm thinking he should shoot you.

5. 2 of the last 3 games I have been MVP so I should be a target to scum as it is :P. Not only that though, as you pointed out I would have been the best choice for the cop to investigate last night so they could have taken out someone who would be cleared. If instead they were trying for the cop if the cop wre to have done his job and cleared me, then the cop would likely get the docs protection and I would likely get the night kill. Or there was also the possibibilty people would get all meta and thinking the role shouldn't be in the game and lynch me. Glad you had a laugh though :)

6. If you are cop and so sure I am scum that you didn't bother to investigate and just plan on letting me die. Good job boss you'll have killed your deputy.

1. "Noctis has actually posted the other two have not.

MDJ has been active on the site since the game started while last I checked moreno hadn't posted since he signed up for the game." This does not say anything about why you didn't vote Noctis at the time of the vote instead.

You explained why you chose MDJ, you never tried to persuade me or anyone else to vote him or another lurker though. And "I do hope our cop isn't one of the lurkers" is the exact opposite of trying to push a lynch on a lurker. You can call it twisting, but there's no way someone is going to read that and then put a vote down on one.

2. You're bulleting a large chunk of that paragraph.. exactly what is it you're saying is a good reason to not want the cop to be lurking?

3. Town is doing terrible in those flipped already because it's inactive. Period. Early day lynches occuring with a mere two votes is pathetic. Mafia can coast unless they're forced to step up. Rely on power and mafia need only eliminate it to win. Force activity and vanillas can win it.

4. Yes you did, and then as I just pointed out you threw out the caution flag with your very next post. Oh goody, counter-suspicion with no actual reasoning? That's going to get you far.

5. You were MVP as scum both times, so that translates to you being awesome town now? It was night three without a cop claim, so most of the choices to kill would be cleared already. If you're telling the truth you're basically vanilla. Mafia would be far better off trying to kill the doc/cop than you. Nice deflection of the point that you claimed for no reason.



I propose we lynch baal if he does turn up scum spurge should then kill linkz tonight. If Noc dies when we lynch baal then the doc should protect me. If not he should protect hat.

Vote: Baal



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Then I unvote

UNVOTE

VOTE: Baalz



Linkz after a quick glance at your post 2 things. I was DOC and got MVP last game. So hardly as scum nice try though and as for my claim, I had a vote on me and IIRC there were 4 hours left in the day with my vote on MDJ the only other vote. Since the day before ended with a lynch from 2 votes I wasn't going to not claim and regret it latter.



NoCtiS_NoX said:

Anyway, Linkz my logic is a failure? I think I really hit the spot. If he is in the state of urgency if he is really a town that is, why he is not pushing for a lynch or making a move on whoever he thinks is/are the mafia? He even pointed out how important to lynch someone. Quite frankly He is acting the way he is acting when he was a mafia. He is making himself look like a townie, I mean too much. He is scared that any post he makes will make him look like a scum. BTW  Linkz why are you so protective of Radish?? I really don't like you or other person answering for him. I also don't like you pointing out that he made a bad post. It's like you are trying to coach him or something and every time Radish names comes out and someone accused him of being scum you quickly defend him. Makes me think two are scum.

YES it's still a failure. Everyone is right to think the statement is scummy. They're wrong to think it would be said to sound townish. Preaching urgency for a lynch without voting or even making a case against someone could never be designed to be townish. Doing the opposite of what you're saying is simply scummy.

As for my relationship with radish, you haven't played with us enough but I practically am his coach. It has yet to rub off on him positively when he's town though. :(



Wonktonodi said:
Linkz after a quick glance at your post 2 things. I was DOC and got MVP last game. So hardly as scum nice try though and as for my claim, I had a vote on me and IIRC there were 4 hours left in the day with my vote on MDJ the only other vote. Since the day before ended with a lynch from 2 votes I wasn't going to not claim and regret it latter.

Sorry I thought you were mafia and MVP twice in a row, but maybe it was FF that was mafia twice in a row? My archives is severly lacking. Point granted in that case.

That's a good reason to push harder for a lynch, and if you weren't going to be around at deadline then sure you claim. Fact is you were and thus the claim was pre-mature.



Linkzmax said:

NoCtiS_NoX said:

Anyway, Linkz my logic is a failure? I think I really hit the spot. If he is in the state of urgency if he is really a town that is, why he is not pushing for a lynch or making a move on whoever he thinks is/are the mafia? He even pointed out how important to lynch someone. Quite frankly He is acting the way he is acting when he was a mafia. He is making himself look like a townie, I mean too much. He is scared that any post he makes will make him look like a scum. BTW  Linkz why are you so protective of Radish?? I really don't like you or other person answering for him. I also don't like you pointing out that he made a bad post. It's like you are trying to coach him or something and every time Radish names comes out and someone accused him of being scum you quickly defend him. Makes me think two are scum.

YES it's still a failure. Everyone is right to think the statement is scummy. They're wrong to think it would be said to sound townish. Preaching urgency for a lynch without voting or even making a case against someone could never be designed to be townish. Doing the opposite of what you're saying is simply scummy.

As for my relationship with radish, you haven't played with us enough but I practically am his coach. It has yet to rub off on him positively when he's town though. :(


Well, he was my scum buddy last time and he is doing the same thing but I am still giving him the benefit of the doubt. That's why I am trying to ask him if who he think are scum.

Anyway, it doesn't matter anymore because you defending him so much makes me thinks he is a mafia now since you are not town aligned.