Wh1pL4shL1ve_007 said:
o_O.Q said:
Wh1pL4shL1ve_007 said:
o_O.Q said:
DirtyP2002 said: If these core games with Move support were what core gamers want, Move would actually sell, but it doesn't. Move, or any motion control scheme, is more a casual experience. Move failed for the casuals as well, because there is a "been there done that" felling that comes with it.
This Move had been in development before the Wii was announced is fanboy talk. There are hundreds of different concepts in the work at Sony, Nintendo and MS. Nintendo was the only one that had the balls to bet on motion controls big time. It is not about concepts on drawing boards - you have to do the next step and bring it to the market. That is what Nintendo did 4 years earlier than Sony. And in these 4 years all Sony came up with is more or less the same experience as the Wiimote with bad software support.
This has nothing to do with the fact that I like the Xbox.
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"And in these 4 years all Sony came up with is more or less the same experience as the Wiimote with bad software support."
well actually the exact same could be levelled at the kinect vs the eyetoy and other web cameras
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=au3UJHItYgc
up to this very day i can't understand whats so new and revolutionary about it as people have been doing the exact same gameplay on web cameras and eyetoy for years and years now...
and if you ask me even though much was promised the kinect hasn't done much so far to differentiate itself from whats been done already...
whenever i've raised this issue all people have said is that "the kinect is so much moar advanced" "3d depth sensing" "cmos sensing" etc...
but if thats the case why hasn't the gameplay changed at all?
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Its because of the technical limitations of Kinect.. you do undertand that its only connected by a modified USB 2.0 ? Kinect has a very low resolution, this means lag and miscomunication often happens.. However, MS really out did themselves by how they compensate for that lag with proggramming ...
Actually. Kinect really is a revolutionary device that has the potential to be better than just gaming... Try googling kinect and press the "News" tab... You'll sometimes see weird new inventons for it..
http://electronics.howstuffworks.com/microsoft-kinect.htm
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what does lag have to do with gameplay type? i ask that question because for example lets say hypotetically that kinect had no lag how would the gameplay of your shape change? or kinectimals? or dance central? etc
what i'm saying is if he thinks that its justified to say this
"And in these 4 years all Sony came up with is more or less the same experience as the Wiimote with bad software support."
then the same must apply to kinect as its done hardly anything gameplaywise that hasn't been done on web cameras for pc and the eyetoy
for example :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=au3UJHItYgc
edit : " Actually. Kinect really is a revolutionary device "
how so?
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From watching that video.. ive seen how kinect is much more responsive than any of those devices... and also being able to play two players DC2 with the use of any controllers. Kinect really is a jump accuracy and responsiveness wise. But its not enough of a jump that it can compete with fast online play. I guess people have seen the kinect as a different device. It was the first motion sensing device that uses such technology for body recognision. A 3d sensing technology.
Seriously though, you seem like a person that one cant convince through posting. You seem to just "shrugg" kinect and the technology it offers. Just try it out and stop watching those videos and you might see how cool it is to play and experince kinect..
Ps: The Ps2, Ps3 eyetoy voice recognition are limited while Kinects voice recognition is much more broad.
Pss: I also had my doubts about the kinect.
Psss: Did you even read the article??
Edit: Ive also seen a culture developing around the net. Whenever a new technology is created relating motion sensing, people tend to say "This Kinect-like device.." Which I found really cool.
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" From watching that video.. ive seen how kinect is much more responsive than any of those devices... Kinect really is a jump accuracy and responsiveness wise..."
well obviously you're seeing things i'm not... lol but the funny thing is you seem to be contradicting yourself now... didn't you say this just now?
"ts because of the technical limitations of Kinect.. you do undertand that its only connected by a modified USB 2.0 ? Kinect has a very low resolution, this means lag and miscomunication often happens"
"I guess people have seen the kinect as a different device."
not necessarily, why would you say so? an idea or device doesn't have to be new for people to be impressed or interested in it...
"It was the first motion sensing device that uses such technology for body recognision. A 3d sensing technology."
and yet it still can't manage to change the gameplay by much?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nypgtIRx4A
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=au3UJHItYgc
"The Ps2, Ps3 eyetoy voice recognition are limited while Kinects voice recognition is much more broad."
i'm thinking that thats more to do with the intended purpose ( as in more commands could have been programed for but there was no need ) but whatever
"Seriously though, you seem like a person that one cant convince..."
you can judge me that well after 2 posts? beyond that yes i have used kinect and also the eyetoy and i'm assuming that anyone else that has understands what i'm talking about... did you ever use the eyetoy?
"Ive also seen a culture developing around the net. Whenever a new technology is created relating motion sensing, people tend to say "This Kinect-like device..""
sounds like how people tend to associated phones and tablets with the iphone and the ipad but they weren't the first and aren't the best in their respective categories...
they're just popular and i have never questioned how successful kinect is just how original the gameplay on it is