Just about anything Suda makes is a critical masterpiece, but a commercial failure. I've decided to list the sales of all of Suda's games as they are from VG CHARTZ. Are they flops or failures?

Result? Since the sales data for most of these games wasn't available, You decide. 

It's a damn shame--he seems to be a very talented developer.

All I see is a bunch of games with no stats and a predictable launch in Japan for No More Heroes.

I'm not really sure what you're trying to say.

i dont know how about some of the ps2 games hes made besides killer 7(if hes made any that is)they might be a success

If everything he made was a 'flop' he wouldn't be making games and we wouldn't know who he is ... He produces what could best be described as cult games; they sell well enough to turn enough of a profit to justify their development but are not amazingly successful.

for it to be a flop doesn't it have to not meet expectations. Considering we know Suda 51 games don't sell well, doesn't that make them not flops by definition?

If no more heroes doesn't sell well it's not a flop, it's expected.

 If the game sells close to a half a million world wide i'd be amazed.  I still think the game will rule though.

Flop is such a negative word. Underappreciated cult classic is much nicer. =P

Think of him as the video-game version of a pre-Spiderman Sam Raimi. He has his set of dedicated fans and his games, while never blockbuster level successes, tend to do well enough.

Fire Pro Wrestling games rule by the way. Japan seems to have a number of games that ave focused on gameplay over graphics that the US lacks like that. Luckily they've been getting ported over lately.

I'll take Fire Pro Wrestling and Power Pros baseball over SVR 2008 and MLB 2008 any day of the week.

what HappySquirrel said 

and btw, I think Contact is a very underrated game (as many DS games are)