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curl-6 on 25 November 2011

Glad to hear this. I don't want to have to wait until 2016 for the next Playstation. Current gen consoles are showing their age.



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brendude13 on 25 November 2011
Dr.Grass said:

MS could shit on your face and you would love every second of it.

Funniest post I have seen in a while.



Dr.Grass on 25 November 2011
S.T.A.G.E. said:
selnor said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
selnor said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
If Sony launches within a good window with good exclusives, proper pricing and cross chat in their online next gen Microsoft is kinda screwed. Especially with the online being free that goes double.

I bet 10000000000% PSN will NOT be free next gen. That would be a horrible business move for Sony. 

PSN is free right now, and Live kills it every year in hours spent playing online. Available downloadable content is also much more active on Live. 

Sony need to make money from PSN to keep up with the R&D of Live.

Dec 6th Live changes again,with so many features that the competition just doesnt have. An integrated search engine for a start.

 

I'll bet PSN will still be free with the addage of PSN Plus and Sony will find more ways to make Plus more appealing and more personal to the PS3 crowd much like Xbox Live pushed the envelope earlier in the gen. To anyone who is smart they will notice Microsoft has made the 360 utterly useless as a multimedia device without the use of Xbox Live. Silver is useless and you can barely upgrade properly. Theres no bonus in making people pay for a connection they already have (I also feel bad for those with Netflix and dont have Gold). I much like many others know this because Microsoft kicks people off Xbox Live for modding and people are forced to buy new Xboxes if they dont just want to game without online. Microsoft is doing it because they can and Sony has proven that with their offerings on PSN with the addition of their PSN service. Nintendo has yet to prove Microsoft wrong, but Son definitely did it. Sony knows if they launch on time with proper games at a proper price the world outside of America will give them the first look over Microsoft. 3/5 of Microsofts sales are in America, so you know where there sales will be regardless. This case was the same for the original Xbox. Microsoft will also be making the 360 more available to everyone (not just gamers) and soon will make Xbox Live completely indestinguisable to their PC OS.  Sony then can capitalize with the games like they are doing now. You can see where Microsoft is headed next gen with their recent acquisitions. They are too predictable. They are just business suits not a gaming company and every day they prove it even more. The only thing they've perfected is online community and once they set the bar others can definitely follow. It's not impossible. Their hump to follow Sony is harder because it takes more risk to have more first party companies and Microsoft has proven they can barely handle it this gen. Lets see if depending on multiplats selling more on their system next gen will help them. If Sony launches within their window it will force everyone to look at what they are really getting right out of the box.

P.S.

I love all the features Xbox Live will keep having. I'll have that whilst Sony keeps giving the more important feature.....exclusive games. No matter what Microsoft does they cant outshine Sony for multimedia. Sony is multimedia company, not Microsoft. Microsoft is an OS company and everything from watching movies on your consoles from Sony pictures to listening to music is first party. Microsoft pays out of pocket for something Sony already has. All Microsoft will do is keep on buying deals to shy away from the fact that they dont find investing in first party companies to be desirable since they wasted $400,000,000 collars buying Rare and seeing nowhere near the return.

1. I love payin for Live, I can clearly see where that mooney is spent.

2. I sure as hell hope the Xbox goes closer to PC. PC is streamlining up with Windows 8. And with the update on Dec 6th this year Microsoft are bringing App marketplace to 360. The best thing for TV consoles IMO. Dedicated Apps.

3. IMO  M$ already outshine SOny for multimedia. I DONT want Bluray. I know many that dont. Sony CANNOT offer ME what I want. Full list of streamed/downloadable Full HD movies. Every album I want at a cheap price. Gaming at a great cost. Sony cannot offer me Halo or Forza. or Gears or fable. Since I dont really care for Uncharted or killzone and have absolutely NO interest in games like Infamous or Motorstorm or Resistance. Sony to me has yet to produce anything that makes me want a PS3. You can reel off Sony games, but none make me want a PS3. To me they dont compare with the quality on longevity of M exclusives. IMO. Sony are not destroyin M$ in EMEAA, so this so called First Party Advantage is not anywhere near what you Sony fans believe. 

4. M$ made videogames before Sony did. So technically Sony are just a TV manufacturer if you are saying M$ ar jsut an OS manufacturer. MGS exited long before PS1.


1. Then play for live. Tell me where the money is spent though.

2. Consoles need to remain consoles. They dont have to be inferior graphically but they are dedicated gaming devices.

3. Its alright for you to believe Microsoft outshines Sony. Sony offers streamed/downloadable HD movies, albums at cheap prices and great gaming at a great cost. Gears is an Epic games property not Microsoft and Forza well...have fun with that. It matters not if you dont want to play infamous. For your information I have a PS3 and 360 and everywhere else in the world Sony is ahead. If you put the sales of Microsoft and Sony year for year Sony would be ahead.Sony does not just make TV's they make a wide variety of electronics, movies (Sony Pictures), music. Microsoft does not make computers, they at the most they make accessories. Their bread and butter is OS and OS alone. Despite the fact that you cannot stand Sony I am wholly sure you've given money to Sony pictures or a Sony contracted recording artist at some point in your life.

4. MGS published flight simulator and bought the IP. They are responsible for the destruction of that series, trust me I know I have friends who were huge fans of it. I grew out of it. Microsoft does not make games. Microsoft Game Studios was created when Microsoft created the Xbox. Trust me...they have lost a huge amount of money on first party outside of Fable, Halo and Forza. This is exactly why they rely on third parties. They are afraid of the risk it takes to make electronics under your own name. The Xbox is still getting shit from shareholders of Microsoft because they wanted them to focus solely on OS because Apple is handing them their collective asses.


That is actually a very decent reply. kudos.



maverick40 on 25 November 2011
Dr.Grass said:
selnor said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
selnor said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
If Sony launches within a good window with good exclusives, proper pricing and cross chat in their online next gen Microsoft is kinda screwed. Especially with the online being free that goes double.

I bet 10000000000% PSN will NOT be free next gen. That would be a horrible business move for Sony. 

PSN is free right now, and Live kills it every year in hours spent playing online. Available downloadable content is also much more active on Live. 

Sony need to make money from PSN to keep up with the R&D of Live.

Dec 6th Live changes again,with so many features that the competition just doesnt have. An integrated search engine for a start.

 

I'll bet PSN will still be free with the addage of PSN Plus and Sony will find more ways to make Plus more appealing and more personal to the PS3 crowd much like Xbox Live pushed the envelope earlier in the gen. To anyone who is smart they will notice Microsoft has made the 360 utterly useless as a multimedia device without the use of Xbox Live. Silver is useless and you can barely upgrade properly. Theres no bonus in making people pay for a connection they already have (I also feel bad for those with Netflix and dont have Gold). I much like many others know this because Microsoft kicks people off Xbox Live for modding and people are forced to buy new Xboxes if they dont just want to game without online. Microsoft is doing it because they can and Sony has proven that with their offerings on PSN with the addition of their PSN service. Nintendo has yet to prove Microsoft wrong, but Son definitely did it. Sony knows if they launch on time with proper games at a proper price the world outside of America will give them the first look over Microsoft. 3/5 of Microsofts sales are in America, so you know where there sales will be regardless. This case was the same for the original Xbox. Microsoft will also be making the 360 more available to everyone (not just gamers) and soon will make Xbox Live completely indestinguisable to their PC OS.  Sony then can capitalize with the games like they are doing now. You can see where Microsoft is headed next gen with their recent acquisitions. They are too predictable. They are just business suits not a gaming company and every day they prove it even more. The only thing they've perfected is online community and once they set the bar others can definitely follow. It's not impossible. Their hump to follow Sony is harder because it takes more risk to have more first party companies and Microsoft has proven they can barely handle it this gen. Lets see if depending on multiplats selling more on their system next gen will help them. If Sony launches within their window it will force everyone to look at what they are really getting right out of the box.

P.S.

I love all the features Xbox Live will keep having. I'll have that whilst Sony keeps giving the more important feature.....exclusive games. No matter what Microsoft does they cant outshine Sony for multimedia. Sony is multimedia company, not Microsoft. Microsoft is an OS company and everything from watching movies on your consoles from Sony pictures to listening to music is first party. Microsoft pays out of pocket for something Sony already has. All Microsoft will do is keep on buying deals to shy away from the fact that they dont find investing in first party companies to be desirable since they wasted $400,000,000 collars buying Rare and seeing nowhere near the return.

1. I love payin for Live, I can clearly see where that mooney is spent.

2. I sure as hell hope the Xbox goes closer to PC. PC is streamlining up with Windows 8. And with the update on Dec 6th this year Microsoft are bringing App marketplace to 360. The best thing for TV consoles IMO. Dedicated Apps.

3. IMO  M$ already outshine SOny for multimedia. I DONT want Bluray. I know many that dont. Sony CANNOT offer ME what I want. Full list of streamed/downloadable Full HD movies. Every album I want at a cheap price. Gaming at a great cost. Sony cannot offer me Halo or Forza. or Gears or fable. Since I dont really care for Uncharted or killzone and have absolutely NO interest in games like Infamous or Motorstorm or Resistance. Sony to me has yet to produce anything that makes me want a PS3. You can reel off Sony games, but none make me want a PS3. To me they dont compare with the quality on longevity of M exclusives. IMO. Sony are not destroyin M$ in EMEAA, so this so called First Party Advantage is not anywhere near what you Sony fans believe. 

4. M$ made videogames before Sony did. So technically Sony are just a TV manufacturer if you are saying M$ ar jsut an OS manufacturer. MGS exited long before PS1.

MS could shit on your face and you would love every second of it.

I love you man. This guy takes brainwashing to a whole new pathetic level!



Dr.Grass on 25 November 2011
padib said:
osamanobama said:

that almost sounded really awesome, then i noticed it said it uses bing, and i was like  

This pic totally looks like ethomaz ;/)


Better -  if you ask me.



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Andrespetmonkey on 25 November 2011
Joelcool7 said:
Seece said:
Joelcool7 said:
Seece said:

 

For anyone that doesn't care for Joels interpretation.


lol Seece, lets ask you how you think my interpretation differs from what was said?

I don't know if it does, didn't bother to read it. I know in general your posts send me and others to sleep and when you announce news not everyone thinks highly of your opinion so you should just post the news and put your opinion under it. I'm not reading anything under this sentance either




look you shouldn't be commenting on someones interpretation if you don't actually read it. As for not everyone thinks highly of my opinion, no not everybody does. Neither do they yours I mean one of my recent threads here on VGChartz was used by Google Financial on their stock analysis site. It seems that it was the fourth most important article if you go by their list. I also had over 100k readers when I worked for my local news paper and sure I got complaints but had a lot of support.

Listen as I said, if you want Eurogamer go to Eurogamer. If you want my interpretation and my article and thread visit it on VGChartz. Considering your a writer here I'd think you would know this stuff before me anyways, considering your actually employed to report the news and I am just doing it for fun while I wait for my next job or the launch of my own site.

Anyways your a writer, you know nobody reads articles that lack any speculation. Look at all the gaming news 80% of its is interpretation. Every interview every news article it is all interpretation. In fact Eurogamers source is intepretation. You gotta get used to it, I'm sure more then half your articles you write are also interpretation of news.

Joel, sometimes I like your posts, but sometimes they are a little boring and TL;DR, I think everyone would prefer your posts if you put your opinion in after the article is pasted, just a suggestion. 



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selnor on 25 November 2011
Dr.Grass said:
selnor said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
selnor said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
If Sony launches within a good window with good exclusives, proper pricing and cross chat in their online next gen Microsoft is kinda screwed. Especially with the online being free that goes double.

I bet 10000000000% PSN will NOT be free next gen. That would be a horrible business move for Sony. 

PSN is free right now, and Live kills it every year in hours spent playing online. Available downloadable content is also much more active on Live. 

Sony need to make money from PSN to keep up with the R&D of Live.

Dec 6th Live changes again,with so many features that the competition just doesnt have. An integrated search engine for a start.

 

I'll bet PSN will still be free with the addage of PSN Plus and Sony will find more ways to make Plus more appealing and more personal to the PS3 crowd much like Xbox Live pushed the envelope earlier in the gen. To anyone who is smart they will notice Microsoft has made the 360 utterly useless as a multimedia device without the use of Xbox Live. Silver is useless and you can barely upgrade properly. Theres no bonus in making people pay for a connection they already have (I also feel bad for those with Netflix and dont have Gold). I much like many others know this because Microsoft kicks people off Xbox Live for modding and people are forced to buy new Xboxes if they dont just want to game without online. Microsoft is doing it because they can and Sony has proven that with their offerings on PSN with the addition of their PSN service. Nintendo has yet to prove Microsoft wrong, but Son definitely did it. Sony knows if they launch on time with proper games at a proper price the world outside of America will give them the first look over Microsoft. 3/5 of Microsofts sales are in America, so you know where there sales will be regardless. This case was the same for the original Xbox. Microsoft will also be making the 360 more available to everyone (not just gamers) and soon will make Xbox Live completely indestinguisable to their PC OS.  Sony then can capitalize with the games like they are doing now. You can see where Microsoft is headed next gen with their recent acquisitions. They are too predictable. They are just business suits not a gaming company and every day they prove it even more. The only thing they've perfected is online community and once they set the bar others can definitely follow. It's not impossible. Their hump to follow Sony is harder because it takes more risk to have more first party companies and Microsoft has proven they can barely handle it this gen. Lets see if depending on multiplats selling more on their system next gen will help them. If Sony launches within their window it will force everyone to look at what they are really getting right out of the box.

P.S.

I love all the features Xbox Live will keep having. I'll have that whilst Sony keeps giving the more important feature.....exclusive games. No matter what Microsoft does they cant outshine Sony for multimedia. Sony is multimedia company, not Microsoft. Microsoft is an OS company and everything from watching movies on your consoles from Sony pictures to listening to music is first party. Microsoft pays out of pocket for something Sony already has. All Microsoft will do is keep on buying deals to shy away from the fact that they dont find investing in first party companies to be desirable since they wasted $400,000,000 collars buying Rare and seeing nowhere near the return.

1. I love payin for Live, I can clearly see where that mooney is spent.

2. I sure as hell hope the Xbox goes closer to PC. PC is streamlining up with Windows 8. And with the update on Dec 6th this year Microsoft are bringing App marketplace to 360. The best thing for TV consoles IMO. Dedicated Apps.

3. IMO  M$ already outshine SOny for multimedia. I DONT want Bluray. I know many that dont. Sony CANNOT offer ME what I want. Full list of streamed/downloadable Full HD movies. Every album I want at a cheap price. Gaming at a great cost. Sony cannot offer me Halo or Forza. or Gears or fable. Since I dont really care for Uncharted or killzone and have absolutely NO interest in games like Infamous or Motorstorm or Resistance. Sony to me has yet to produce anything that makes me want a PS3. You can reel off Sony games, but none make me want a PS3. To me they dont compare with the quality on longevity of M exclusives. IMO. Sony are not destroyin M$ in EMEAA, so this so called First Party Advantage is not anywhere near what you Sony fans believe. 

4. M$ made videogames before Sony did. So technically Sony are just a TV manufacturer if you are saying M$ ar jsut an OS manufacturer. MGS exited long before PS1.

MS could shit on your face and you would love every second of it.

You say that because you disagree with my taste. Thats pretty sad. 

IMO they offer me what I needbetter than Sony. So why would I say different?