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HappySqurriel said:
As much as I'm disturbed by this, I'm also disturbed by the demonstrated ignorance of the vast majority of people who don't seem to understand that obesity is caused by excessive intake of food not from eating nutritionally deficient foods. While it would be ideal to have nutritious food served to children in school, as long as the children are eating an appropriate number of calories and are active enough obesity should not be a problem.


While techinically this may be true, I think it's a lot more complicated.

I mean, eating nutritiously deficient foods may quench your hunger at the time, but it probably means you'll be hungry again earlier, causing you to either have to keep restricting yourself (which might bring other problems, I don't know, but it's not like your body makes you hungry just to screw with you) or to eat too much - in calories, but not in nutrients.

Either way it may make the whole "eat less, exercise more" mantra a lot harder to live by.



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HappySqurriel said:
As much as I'm disturbed by this, I'm also disturbed by the demonstrated ignorance of the vast majority of people who don't seem to understand that obesity is caused by excessive intake of food not from eating nutritionally deficient foods. While it would be ideal to have nutritious food served to children in school, as long as the children are eating an appropriate number of calories and are active enough obesity should not be a problem.


Well... also by lack of exercise really.  You can eat like a fatass as a kid and especially teenager in most cases and still burn it off if you exercise the proper amount.  And that exercise habit will carry into your adulthood when you do start eating healthier. 

The eating poorly/too much part is neck and neck with it though. 

Keep in mind physical ed classes are being canceled, sports are being cut, and why go outside and play when you have a gaming console?  It's much easier for parents to watch you when you're parked in front of the TV then when they are outside playing.

Then again you have libtards saying sports like dodgeball and even other regular ones are unfair because it singles out kids and makes them feel bad.  So there goes physical competition.



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Jexy said:
mrstickball said:
 


Nothing is preventing you from learning about cooking outside of school. If you are expecting your school to teach you everything you need to know in life, then you will be sorely dissapointed.

You live check to check because you don't invest in the right things at the right time, and instead pay that $5 out each day vs. investing in something $100. Your in debt because you bought something that you couldn't buy in cash. By the time I was 21, I saved up enough money to buy a house and an apartment complex to rent out to tenants. I did this, because I chose not to buy a car, or other things I didn't feel were critical. They've come back to help me significantly. People are too stupid to know where to be taught because they are undisciplined. People would rather spend time on Facebook posting banal status updates than go to Khan Academy, learn to cook, or learn something from Wikipedia. Its all in your choices. People are free to choose stupid things and get stupid prizes. I chose not to. Everyone has that choice.

You do realize I'm speaking for others, not myself, right?

And how do people learn to invest?  You realize most inner city schools don't even know what the word means?  You talk like this is common sense, but you learned it from somewhere, whether your parents taught it to you just by being responsible people, or they gave you access to the internet early on, or you had the free time to think of these things and didn't have to take care of your siblings, etc... whatever it is, you learned it somewhere.

How's some kid going to even know to look for the Khan Academy?  How does he know to do something that he didn't know existed?  This stuff is common sense to us, but not to them.  It has to be taught somehow, but there are already enough screwed up generations to expect it to be taught by their parents.  You think they'll learn this stuff if all their parents have on TV are MTV and Jerry Springer?  Or would they have a better chance if it were fox business and the discovery channel?

Dumb people raise dumb kids and dumb people have more kids than smart people.  It's a bad cycle, and they clearly aren't educating themselves, since it's just getting worse... so instead of just calling them idiots, they need to be taught.

I learned how to invest by my own power and understanding. I grew up in poverty. My dad was never around until I was 12 when he got off the road from truck driving and got a job as a midnight stocker at Wal-Mart. I didn't have the internet, much less a PC until I was older and it was purchased by my grandma, as my parents had very little money. I learned it from some where - just like every one else has the same opportunity. If you regulate the poverty mindset and mentality as to being a never-ending cycle, then the logcal outcome should be that no one has any sort of social mobility, which is an outright falsehood, and any and all data will argue that is not the case provided there are free markets and freedom of information.

How is a kid going to look for Khan Academy? Well, he's not going to be on Facebook all day or texing friends all day. He would be disciplined to learn and understand the world, rather than be satiated by mass media. I didn't know about Khan Academy until recently. But I learned about it because I am always interested in learning - something my parents didn't teach me, but at least pointed me in the right direction.

I agree that the uneducated need taught. I don't believe it will be done by our current school system which is an abject failure and proof that government cannot be trusted with something as vauable as education. To end the cycle, you need discipline. To instill discipline, schools need the latitude to institute it if parents are unwilling or unable to institute it. Of course, the answer (to me) is vouchers, which is something that many object to because they want to continue the hand-to-mouth exsistence of our current education structure which focuses on keeping the status quo.



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Farmageddon said:


While techinically this may be true, I think it's a lot more complicated.

I mean, eating nutritiously deficient foods may quench your hunger at the time, but it probably means you'll be hungry again earlier, causing you to either have to keep restricting yourself (which might bring other problems, I don't know, but it's not like your body makes you hungry just to screw with you) or to eat too much - in calories, but not in nutrients.

Either way it may make the whole "eat less, exercise more" mantra a lot harder to live by.


Yeah, I think we may want to focus on... "Just exercise at all" than eat less, and workout like a pro athlete.  If they try it, they will realize how good it makes them feel.



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Jexy said:
Farmageddon said:
 


While techinically this may be true, I think it's a lot more complicated.

I mean, eating nutritiously deficient foods may quench your hunger at the time, but it probably means you'll be hungry again earlier, causing you to either have to keep restricting yourself (which might bring other problems, I don't know, but it's not like your body makes you hungry just to screw with you) or to eat too much - in calories, but not in nutrients.

Either way it may make the whole "eat less, exercise more" mantra a lot harder to live by.


Yeah, I think we may want to focus on... "Just exercise at all" than eat less, and workout like a pro athlete.  If they try it, they will realize how good it makes them feel.


Well I agree exercise is important and actually feels good, but you can't separate these things into bubbles. It's harder to exercise when you're constantly wanting to eat more and maybe even being malnourished. It's not like the things you eat and the way you eat won't affect your metabolism and what not. I just think saying someone is fat because they don't exercise and eat too much is an oversimplification when the feedback goes both ways here.



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mrstickball said:

I learned how to invest by my own power and understanding. I grew up in poverty. My dad was never around until I was 12 when he got off the road from truck driving and got a job as a midnight stocker at Wal-Mart. I didn't have the internet, much less a PC until I was older and it was purchased by my grandma, as my parents had very little money. I learned it from some where - just like every one else has the same opportunity. If you regulate the poverty mindset and mentality as to being a never-ending cycle, then the logcal outcome should be that no one has any sort of social mobility, which is an outright falsehood, and any and all data will argue that is not the case provided there are free markets and freedom of information.

How is a kid going to look for Khan Academy? Well, he's not going to be on Facebook all day or texing friends all day. He would be disciplined to learn and understand the world, rather than be satiated by mass media. I didn't know about Khan Academy until recently. But I learned about it because I am always interested in learning - something my parents didn't teach me, but at least pointed me in the right direction.

I agree that the uneducated need taught. I don't believe it will be done by our current school system which is an abject failure and proof that government cannot be trusted with something as vauable as education. To end the cycle, you need discipline. To instill discipline, schools need the latitude to institute it if parents are unwilling or unable to institute it. Of course, the answer (to me) is vouchers, which is something that many object to because they want to continue the hand-to-mouth exsistence of our current education structure which focuses on keeping the status quo.

For every good story like that though, there are 99 more that don't end up that way.  You have to realize that.

And your last paragraph says it all.  They need to be taught, which the current system won't do, and they need discipline, which the current system and way of life for their parents won't do. 



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Farmageddon said:


Well I agree exercise is important and actually feels good, but you can't separate these things into bubbles. It's harder to exercise when you're constantly wanting to eat more and maybe even being malnourished. It's not like the things you eat and the way you eat won't affect your metabolism and what not. I just think saying someone is fat because they don't exercise and eat too much is an oversimplification when the feedback goes both ways here.

Most of the out of shape people I know aren't starving all the time... they are just doing nothing.  In school you used to be able to FORCE kids to exercise in gym class... now you can't do that because of feelings and parents and lawyers.



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Sweet now I can eat Pizza everyday and not have to worry about getting fat! Thank you Congress people!



Jexy said:
Farmageddon said:
 


Well I agree exercise is important and actually feels good, but you can't separate these things into bubbles. It's harder to exercise when you're constantly wanting to eat more and maybe even being malnourished. It's not like the things you eat and the way you eat won't affect your metabolism and what not. I just think saying someone is fat because they don't exercise and eat too much is an oversimplification when the feedback goes both ways here.

Most of the out of shape people I know aren't starving all the time... they are just doing nothing.  In school you used to be able to FORCE kids to exercise in gym class... now you can't do that because of feelings and parents and lawyers.

... Which brings me back to my original point that you disagreed with. Give kids vouchers. Make private school available for all kids regardless of race or income bracket. Make schools compete, and the best schools will invariably survive, which will give kids discipline and likely better food at school too.



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I'm not sure I would call pizza a vegetable and this is coming from someone who loves pizza (but who doesn't).