...and I'd take your opinion and toss it out the window with vengence. ;)

PC - ultra high (highest possible settings)
PS4 - High
XBOne - Med-High
WiiU - Low.

Scaling is key and WiiU will not have a technical reason to be ignored by 3rd parties. The software tech and architecture is there. Just less horse power.

You can't use Wii to PS360 as a comparison.

Wii was almost 20x less powerful (wiiu is at max 6x to PS4) and Wii had no where near the same architecture as well as didn't support any of the modern shaders/other software tech.

WiiU has same architecture as well as same software tech.

@superchunk: I know it's not this time it's not the same situation as last gen, but there's still an important difference between WiiU and the other consoles.

And to save that difference there's one thing that devs and publishers will have to do: care about it. How many are going to think at this problem and say "bah, it's not worth the effort"?

That's a flawed argument you've put together, Chunk has already addressed some of it so I'll address the rest, you're basing your entire argument on the U being massively underpowered which isn't the case even under the speculated numbers, the console is easily with in range of multiplatforms and now with an architecture to help ease development. It's all well harping on about later on in the gen except the Wii U as well will be advancing as time goes on, a lot of people use this argument as if the U won't progress any further from what it is now.

Developers don't need more power for their visions they just want more power to be extra lazy that's what it comes down to otherwise they'd all be developing exclusively for PCs. Again Wii is a different scenario, the console was around 20x behind in power and didn't use the same technical approach in rendering and so on, Dead Rising was ported to RE4's engine and released on Wii rather then be made from the ground up like COD:MW.

That's just it. What effort? Modern engines are scaleable by default. Last gen, they were forced to use completely seperate teams for Wii vs PS360. They won't need that this round. Look at Ubisoft's quotes regarding Watch_Dogs. They are first building the PC/NextGen (including WiiU) game and a separate team is building PS360 and starting later.

Its clear WiiU's architecture and features are not an issue the engines being used are scaling for the devs without much effort on them.

And you can't take EAs comments at face value. They obviously have ulterior motives. However, they are also the only one being negative and tossing around info regarding an engine not working on WiiU.

But they don't need to as that's why Nintendo is giving Unity out for free with dev kits as well as tons of other SDK free help.

Well, I wouldn't mind being proven wrong ^.^

But as I said, I'd hold future debates until X-mas.

Which is why I always say it won't have anything to do with technology. They may still ignore Nintendo or course.

you should go read the neogaf gpu thread, it still up for debate, fourthstorm the guy that got the gpu die pic thinks its a 160 shaders gpu, along with othere tech heads, so its still highly debatable, beyond3d is mostly leaning on a 160 shader gpu.

im sorry JEMC but if this numbers are true that puts PS4>>XBOX1>>>WiiU

basically PS4 x2 XBOX1 x2.5 WiiU

way less difference than last gen

As I said, we'll have the chance to see the difference this Christmas.