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johnsobas said:
Mummelmann said:
johnsobas said:
Mummelmann said:
It'll be 10 years minimum until that would be even remotely possible. About 85% of people WW with broadband connections, have DSL, which has a lousy upspeed. So sharing HD content P2P is simply no use at this point. And it'll be a looooong time till any distributor starts selling or renting HD movies in a large scale, especially since the cinema is doing better than ever.
Also, even if someone were to offer it, only a small percentage would have the speed required to download the sheer amount of information contained within HD files with uncompressed content.
Another major issue is; broadband, as far as I know, is availiable and/or in use for roughly 15% of the earth's population, while cinemas and/or movie retailers are available for over 70%, so it would make no sense to give cinema and optical media a cold shoulder for a very long time until thess statistics change.
in conclusion; whichever format (allthough it's 95% sure that BluRay takes it home) wins the "format wars", is here to stay.
Lol, 10 years huh? My friend here in Korea has already been doing it for a year, and it's starting to become more and more popular here. Here you pay a monthly fee (about $10) and there is tons of free movies/tv shows on there, then there is also movies you have to pay for, but they are very cheap (2-3$), and tv series like 24 only cost about 30 cents to watch. The movies are automatically downloaded to the hard drive so there's no need to wait to start watching the movie. Also there is no up front fees like buying a hard drive (there might be an activation cost, i dunno), just pay the montly fee and when you're done you return the device.

 


Yes, and we all know that the entire globe is like Korea. Your post de-validates none of my points. I hardly think that the industry will base their entire operation on one nation...

You're saying it's not possible for 10 years, i'm saying it's happening now so why wouldn't it be possible in 5 years in other countries?

 


 It's happening now, in Korea. Yes. Korea are always early adopters of new tech; cellphones and their functions, digital TV, broadband (and ISDN in it's time). Most other countries aren't, like in the US. The US has fewer broadband users than Japan, despite having 2.5 times the population. In fact, there's still a surprising number of US and Euopean citizens who are on dial-up! Tech is slow WW, and will remain that way despite being adopted and used very early and very frequently in some countries.

Norway is one of the best examples I can think of; not until last year did broadband reach outside of the biggest cities for real, despite Norway being a pioneer nation in other tech (more societal and implemental) and despite it being among the 5 wealthiest nations on earth and listing among the top 3 in living standards. One nations state or priority simply is not measurable with the global situation. 



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I've never been a supporter of HD or Blu-Ray or downloadable stuff.

HD and Blu-Ray don't make a significant change. Most people don't see a difference and the disk being bigger doesn't justify the high price imo.

Downloadable content is just a big no no for me. I have a limited internet of 100 GB and if I had to dload all the games, movies and music I get I'd pay a fortune cause I'm getting over the limit. Especially that it's already expansive enough (107$ a month, ouch)!

So I think that regular DVDs will still be there for a long while. Not everyone is a technogeek so most regular people stick to regular stuff. DVDs are good enough and less expansive.



kber81 said:
whatever said:

Just doing a quick search gives:

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5jGK2CZZu1nEJtZekM7K39jfiLhWAD8TUP10O0

"In all, 23 percent of music sales were derived from digital purchases, Sisco said.

A report released in November by Jupiter Research LLC forecast digital music sales will continue to grow to $2.8 billion, comprising 34 percent of U.S. consumer spending on music in 2012."

 


In all, 31,5% percent of handheld seles were derived from PSP, VGchartz said.

Is Nintendo in trouble?


This is relevant to the discussion how?



whatever said:
kber81 said:
whatever said:

Just doing a quick search gives:

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5jGK2CZZu1nEJtZekM7K39jfiLhWAD8TUP10O0

"In all, 23 percent of music sales were derived from digital purchases, Sisco said.

A report released in November by Jupiter Research LLC forecast digital music sales will continue to grow to $2.8 billion, comprising 34 percent of U.S. consumer spending on music in 2012."

 


In all, 31,5% percent of handheld seles were derived from PSP, VGchartz said.

Is Nintendo in trouble?


This is relevant to the discussion how?


 i think he's actually trying to downplay the effect that downloads has on people buying CDs. 



currently playing: Skyward Sword, Mario Sunshine, Xenoblade Chronicles X

whatever said:

This is relevant to the discussion how?


Fact some stuff has a fair share of the market doesn't mean it will supplant another one eventually. There is a space for downloadable content in general but I don't see it as a thread for physical stuff.



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Mummelmann said:
johnsobas said:
Mummelmann said:
johnsobas said:
Mummelmann said:
It'll be 10 years minimum until that would be even remotely possible. About 85% of people WW with broadband connections, have DSL, which has a lousy upspeed. So sharing HD content P2P is simply no use at this point. And it'll be a looooong time till any distributor starts selling or renting HD movies in a large scale, especially since the cinema is doing better than ever.
Also, even if someone were to offer it, only a small percentage would have the speed required to download the sheer amount of information contained within HD files with uncompressed content.
Another major issue is; broadband, as far as I know, is availiable and/or in use for roughly 15% of the earth's population, while cinemas and/or movie retailers are available for over 70%, so it would make no sense to give cinema and optical media a cold shoulder for a very long time until thess statistics change.
in conclusion; whichever format (allthough it's 95% sure that BluRay takes it home) wins the "format wars", is here to stay.
Lol, 10 years huh? My friend here in Korea has already been doing it for a year, and it's starting to become more and more popular here. Here you pay a monthly fee (about $10) and there is tons of free movies/tv shows on there, then there is also movies you have to pay for, but they are very cheap (2-3$), and tv series like 24 only cost about 30 cents to watch. The movies are automatically downloaded to the hard drive so there's no need to wait to start watching the movie. Also there is no up front fees like buying a hard drive (there might be an activation cost, i dunno), just pay the montly fee and when you're done you return the device.

 


Yes, and we all know that the entire globe is like Korea. Your post de-validates none of my points. I hardly think that the industry will base their entire operation on one nation...

You're saying it's not possible for 10 years, i'm saying it's happening now so why wouldn't it be possible in 5 years in other countries?

 


It's happening now, in Korea. Yes. Korea are always early adopters of new tech; cellphones and their functions, digital TV, broadband (and ISDN in it's time). Most other countries aren't, like in the US. The US has fewer broadband users than Japan, despite having 2.5 times the population. In fact, there's still a surprising number of US and Euopean citizens who are on dial-up! Tech is slow WW, and will remain that way despite being adopted and used very early and very frequently in some countries.

Norway is one of the best examples I can think of; not until last year did broadband reach outside of the biggest cities for real, despite Norway being a pioneer nation in other tech (more societal and implemental) and despite it being among the 5 wealthiest nations on earth and listing among the top 3 in living standards. One nations state or priority simply is not measurable with the global situation.


 I agree it's gonna take some years, but it won't take that long for Japan and the US.  It's not like Blu-ray has the market right now, blu-ray is still gonna need many years to grow into something that can actually contend with DVD and by that time downloadables will be waiting in the wings.  Downloadable movies will never completely take over, but it's gonna be significant.  



currently playing: Skyward Sword, Mario Sunshine, Xenoblade Chronicles X

Downloading seems like it'd be the way to go, but like I posted somewhere else, people are still using dial-up versus broadband, which means they have lower bandwith, and downloading an HD movie on a dial-up connection would take years. I don't think until everyone has cable or fiber-optic, that we'll see downloadable media coming forth.



after searching around a little bit i found that digital downloads were up about 50% from last year, and CD sales declined 23% from last year. Despite the 50% increase in digital downloads overall music sales (digital and CDs included) were down 10% which basically means that the number of people illegally downloading music is also increasing.



currently playing: Skyward Sword, Mario Sunshine, Xenoblade Chronicles X

Well Kber if you could show the PSP sharing a similar market share in software sales you might have a point.

Let's not forget Sony has also promised that the PS4's games would be exclusively digital distribution. So it would seem Sony offers its own confidence in Digital distribution being the future.



Onimusha12 said:
Well Kber if you could show the PSP sharing a similar market share in software sales you might have a point.

C'mon G... this Kber with capital K become your showcase no matter which account you actually use.

Don't troll.