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hatmoza said:
Hey heph. Do you trust me?

in general, yes.

in this game, no.



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Wonktonodi said:
Hephaestos said:
Wonktonodi said:
Since someone finally asked I am Igor

thanks.

now, why would you need to wait for someone to ask you to claim for you to actally do it? we're 3 days in a 5 day run, you have majority votes and you've claimed the one thing that gets penalty. why wait for the name?


why would people wait days to even say the reasons they voted? the whole thing is so ridiculs. Why did it take that long for anyone to even ask a question?

oh ans one thing I didn't point out to you the other day. Me being disapointed in someone and me thinking someone is scum are not mutually exclusive. I feel both about hat :)

reactions defer upon the accusation type. One would thing a llama has been accused many times and is tried to the usuall accusation methods. Heck you got accused yesterday already and that kicked you into your usual tunnel vision. This time arround, you still thought it "scummy", but you didn't launch a vendetta.



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Wonktonodi said:
hatmoza said:
Hephaestos said:
Wonktonodi said:
Since someone finally asked I am Igor

thanks.

now, why would you need to wait for someone to ask you to claim for you to actally do it? we're 3 days in a 5 day run, you have majority votes and you've claimed the one thing that gets penalty. why wait for the name?


What the hell boo!?

Anywho ... yeah Wonk, while your on my ass, you still have other people to convince that you're not scum.


only think that would convice heph is my cold dead body. He's still upest over being the night one kill last game.


Actually yes to the first part, I did feel very odd about that second post of the game of yours. About last game, I feel honored if anything, the only thing i'm upset about is not having been able to use my role which was interesting (it was a combination of watcher and friendly neighboor).



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Player/Remaining Votes L-6 L-5 L-4
Wonktonodi Hephaestos NoCtiS_NoX Morenoingrato
Morenoingrato TruckOSaurus Hatmoza Linkzmax

 

 

 

 

Voting history:

Wonk (L-4): Linkz, Heph, Hatmoza, NoCtiS, Moreno

Heph (L-7): TruckO

Stefl (L-7): Final-Fan

Moreno (L-4): TruckO, Hatmoza, Linkz



updated: 14.01.2012

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@Stefl1504:
I got your question, I just used sarcasm
Haven't you read the rules? There is a penalty for revealing your roles, why don't you go and reveal yours?

Real defense, huh?
I am stating facts, real actual facts that explain all of Trucks's points, even of some of them were just rookie mistakes, you are just ignoring all of my posts.



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morenoingrato said:
TruckOSaurus said:

I'll start this post by doing this:

Vote: morenoingrato

Now, here's why.

First of all, his edit didn't exactly earn him trust points with me. I don't believe he was coached to do it, I even find this idea preposterous even if Mafia is allowed to talk during the day. What I believe is that upon rereading his post, he realized it made him look bad and he corrected it. That kind of move could be done by a newb townie or by newb scum but I'm convinced it's more likely to happen if you're scum.

Then during the rest of Day One , moreno barely mentionned Silver-Tiger and preferred voting for Wonk. The only time he mentionned ST was when he unvoted Wonk and said he found ST suspicious but didn't want to vote just yet.

Then comes Day Two, where he opens with an analysis of the Mafia's decision to kill Metal_Gear and where he also shows he wants to vote for Wonk but settles for a FoS. My guess is that the fear of being accused of bandwagoning got the best of him. He later reaffirmed his suspicions of Wonk, without mustering the courage to vote once again.

Afterwards, he continued to analyse the Mafia's kill in these posts : [post] [post]. This I find very scummy coming from a new player. Why so much insight into what the Mafia might be thinking? I wouldn't mind it so much if someone had asked him to give his thought about it but that's the very first thing he mentionned on Day Two. Everytime he posted about it, I've had this feeling he was posting with such assurance because he was part of the discussion that led to the choice of Metal_Gear as a victim.

1) Okay, so you're still gonna use my first post ever in the Mafia, my rookie mistake as en excuse to call me scum? I saw that, and realized I sounded silly, so I edited, no one ever told me editing was wrong.

2) About the second the part, I didn't truly follow ST's argument with detail, so that was why I didn't vote, I didn't really get the argument.

3) Next, okay, I didn't want to bandwagon without a strong argument, that would just make me look weak and make my statements even less coherent, I wanted some major proof before doing a vote, I didn't want to do such a baseless argument like day one.

4) Finally, I was just analizing Mafia's way of thinking, maybe it was pretty irrelevant, but I just felt like  I needed to contribute somehow.

5)Also, I fail to see how votes suddenly switched to me, Trucks posted something to try to make look like scum, and suddenly everyone seems to follow his lead because...?

1) Your edit didn't help your case but it's in no way the main point of my suspicion. I've also made it pretty clear that I didn't think anyone told you to do it and yet you feel the need to defend yourself about it...

2) Not following arguments is not the best defense. Townies need to follow every argument to find scum. Scum just needs to stay alive and focus on mislynching people so your defense points once again to scum.

3) Apart from cop investigation, there's never major proof of anything. I still stand by my point that you wanted to vote but you were afraid of getting the same backlash as Silver-Tiger yesterday.

4) Yes you were analyzing the Mafia's way of thinking but you were very confident in what they did or did not do. You brushed off the possibility they were looking for power roles. That's what's bothering me.

5) Because I'm awesome!



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morenoingrato said:
@Stefl1504:
I got your question, I just used sarcasm
Haven't you read the rules? There is a penalty for revealing your roles, why don't you go and reveal yours?

Haven't you read the rules or followed the game? Character claims are allowed. Your understanding of the question, yet dodging the answer is another strike.

If you aren't vanilla you could just say you are power. Possibly even categorize the power as Investigative, Protective, Killing, or other.

Stefl has claimed Vanilla Townie, Undersea Gal.



Baalzamon said:
I will send radish a message seeing if he wants to replace Son1x due to (apparent) popular demand.

What are your rules on ties?



morenoingrato said:
@Stefl1504:
I got your question, I just used sarcasm
Haven't you read the rules? There is a penalty for revealing your roles, why don't you go and reveal yours?

Real defense, huh?
I am stating facts, real actual facts that explain all of Trucks's points, even of some of them were just rookie mistakes, you are just ignoring all of my posts.

Well if you think you are putting up a defense... what about:

morenoingrato said:
2) About the second the part, I didn't truly follow ST's argument with detail, so that was why I didn't vote, I didn't really get the argument.

Have you ever thought of rereading it and then answer in another way? Because that what you said is like "I didn't bother, I am scum and I don't want to state my opinion on things my scummates did, because I could make a connection that appears if I were to be scum" - simply expressed - you are trying to keep distance to your scummate... that doesn't really help you, you know? ST established that distance between you two already with this awkward post, you also trying to establish a distance even additionally is not a wise choice...

Finally how can town rely on you when you don't even read 2% of all the posts... like Linkzmax stated... there were about... 10 posts only about my roleclaim... and these posts were short, not huge walls of text...



EDITED the above to not be a lie:

Finally how can town rely on you when you don't even read 2% of all the posts... like Linkzmax stated I am Vanilla Townie, Undersea Gal... there were about... 10 posts only about my roleclaim... and these posts were short, not huge walls of text...