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hatmoza said:
morenoingrato said:
TruckOSaurus said:

I'll start this post by doing this:

Vote: morenoingrato

Now, here's why.

First of all, his edit didn't exactly earn him trust points with me. I don't believe he was coached to do it, I even find this idea preposterous even if Mafia is allowed to talk during the day. What I believe is that upon rereading his post, he realized it made him look bad and he corrected it. That kind of move could be done by a newb townie or by newb scum but I'm convinced it's more likely to happen if you're scum.

Then during the rest of Day One , moreno barely mentionned Silver-Tiger and preferred voting for Wonk. The only time he mentionned ST was when he unvoted Wonk and said he found ST suspicious but didn't want to vote just yet.

Then comes Day Two, where he opens with an analysis of the Mafia's decision to kill Metal_Gear and where he also shows he wants to vote for Wonk but settles for a FoS. My guess is that the fear of being accused of bandwagoning got the best of him. He later reaffirmed his suspicions of Wonk, without mustering the courage to vote once again.

Afterwards, he continued to analyse the Mafia's kill in these posts : [post] [post]. This I find very scummy coming from a new player. Why so much insight into what the Mafia might be thinking? I wouldn't mind it so much if someone had asked him to give his thought about it but that's the very first thing he mentionned on Day Two. Everytime he posted about it, I've had this feeling he was posting with such assurance because he was part of the discussion that led to the choice of Metal_Gear as a victim.

Okay, so you're still gonna use my first post ever in the Mafia, my rookie mistake as en excuse to call me scum? I saw that, and realized I sounded silly, so I edited, no one ever told me editing was wrong.

About the second the part, I didn't truly follow ST's argument with detail, so that was why I didn't vote, I didn't really get the argument.

Next, okay, I didn't want to bandwagon without a strong argument, that would just make me look weak and make my statements even less coherent, I wanted some major proof before doing a vote, I didn't want to do such a baseless argument like day one.

Finally, I was just analizing Mafia's way of thinking, maybe it was pretty irrelevant, but I just felt like  I needed to contribute somehow.

Also, I fail to see how votes suddenly switched to me, Trucks posted something to try to make look like scum, and suddenly everyone seems to follow his lead because...?

hoho, I see a future prodogy in the game of mafia. How exciting!

 

ahem, anywho.there's a lot more to it in my eyes at least. You will pick up as you play along. Other than trucks reasoning that is.

For example. You found it necessary to give your longest post when put under pressure :) which means you are 1- following the game and and only felt the need to post when needed -to defend yourself. In other words You're around but not contributing 2- Youre between lurking and active lurking. Both mafia tells IIRC.

I criticize you because I see a new potential mafia player. I want you to grow and become a regular in future games.

Well, I found his reasoning to be pretty random, and only based on my initial mistakes, so I felt that I needed to get outside of the comfort zone and do something about it.



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Stefl1504 said:
morenoingrato said:
Stefl1504 said:

morenoingrato said:

quote + blublub...

Also, I fail to see how votes suddenly switched to me, Trucks posted something to try to make look like scum, and suddenly everyone seems to follow his lead because...?

 

 

... because they think he made a well founded accusation against you and you are not even puting up a good defense?

I am putting all my facts, and I know all of that is true, he is just trying to scum me because of my mistakes.

can you list any other reasons besides peoples mistakes and powerroles to uncover scum? Well maybe some supernatural power that allows long distance mindreading, but I haven't heard about that existing...

Well, what can I say?

I didn't follow ST's argument closely, so I didn't have any base to vote for him, so I just went with the perosn I understood the most, Wonk.

Then, the day after, I realized that if I wanna vote for someone, I should be more than sure that the person is scum, so I was just finding the pieces to that puzzle.



hatmoza said:
I'd like to add that my new avatar is smashing!

oh Erica ... If only all people saw your beautiful side like I do <3

Aahhh... yeah how I'd like to have the game in my arsenal... sadly I am short on money... /sarcasm don't know if I can even pay the rent ;P  if anybody is willing to buy a painting from me, just PM me^^ they are cheap, only 70 € ;P *continues with of topic talk about selling stuff to you all out there* /sarcasm end



morenoingrato said:
Stefl1504 said:
morenoingrato said:
Stefl1504 said:

morenoingrato said:

quote + blublub...

Also, I fail to see how votes suddenly switched to me, Trucks posted something to try to make look like scum, and suddenly everyone seems to follow his lead because...?

 

 

... because they think he made a well founded accusation against you and you are not even puting up a good defense?

I am putting all my facts, and I know all of that is true, he is just trying to scum me because of my mistakes.

can you list any other reasons besides peoples mistakes and powerroles to uncover scum? Well maybe some supernatural power that allows long distance mindreading, but I haven't heard about that existing...

Well, what can I say?

I didn't follow ST's argument closely, so I didn't have any base to vote for him, so I just went with the perosn I understood the most, Wonk.

Then, the day after, I realized that if I wanna vote for someone, I should be more than sure that the person is scum, so I was just finding the pieces to that puzzle.

Well then maybe you should go back and look for ST mistakes^^, well since you are looking like you are going to get lynched either way - care to claim your mafia-role and character-role (for explanation of the two terms yadayadayada....)



morenoingrato said:
Linkzmax said:

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4299408

I have 0 experience in Mafia, this is my first Mafia game ever, so I'm still catching up with you people.

Well, the reason I'm worried of how I look is because I do not wanna be mis-lynched so early in the game, so I'm trying really hard to clear any wrong theories out of me.

Well, I felt the need to contribute because I felt that was better than staying lurking doing nothing about it.

About the second question, well, I really think my MG's death comments got pretty worthless, that was just the first thing that came in my mind.

I'd like you to answer the questions in the link too.



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morenoingrato said:

Well, what can I say?

I didn't follow ST's argument closely, so I didn't have any base to vote for him, so I just went with the perosn I understood the most, Wonk.

Then, the day after, I realized that if I wanna vote for someone, I should be more than sure that the person is scum, so I was just finding the pieces to that puzzle.

Why did you follow Wonk and not ST? As hat points out, you've been checking out the thread to pop in just as votes came on you.

What made you realize you should be more sure that a person is scum to vote them? I don't think you've provided any pieces to the puzzle yet, have anything to share?



Linkzmax said:

What is it you're waiting for?

Yes you should dig more. It's good to have a top suspect, but I want to know who else you are suspicious of.

So you have no change in town reads on anyone else since 5 days ago? What makes them clean to you?

I wanted some clear, definitive proof, but I guess that is not how the games flow, so maybe I really should step up and put my vote.

Vote: Wonk

Well, about other suspects, I haven't looked at it too deeply, but Trucks's consistent effords to lynch others, could be just scum trying to trick others into mis-lynch townsfolk. But this is just a very light theory.

Well, the reason I find them cleam is their confidence and balance in their posts, I just feel they have nothing to hide.



Linkzmax said:
morenoingrato said:

Well, what can I say?

I didn't follow ST's argument closely, so I didn't have any base to vote for him, so I just went with the perosn I understood the most, Wonk.

Then, the day after, I realized that if I wanna vote for someone, I should be more than sure that the person is scum, so I was just finding the pieces to that puzzle.

Why did you follow Wonk and not ST? As hat points out, you've been checking out the thread to pop in just as votes came on you.

What made you realize you should be more sure that a person is scum to vote them? I don't think you've provided any pieces to the puzzle yet, have anything to share?

Wonk's post was pretty clear, and I noticed his intention rather quickly. ST's argument went for several posts and I just couldn't get into the argument.

I've checked almost every post, but what I normally look for is my name, and as I saw it, I really felt I needed to step up and defend myself.

Lastly, well, I think that if I made a mistep, I could be lynched easily, and someone would be able to twist it and make me look like scum. Anyway, I have casted my vote already.



Stefl1504 said:
morenoingrato said:

Well, what can I say?

I didn't follow ST's argument closely, so I didn't have any base to vote for him, so I just went with the perosn I understood the most, Wonk.

Then, the day after, I realized that if I wanna vote for someone, I should be more than sure that the person is scum, so I was just finding the pieces to that puzzle.

Well then maybe you should go back and look for ST mistakes^^, well since you are looking like you are going to get lynched either way - care to claim your mafia-role and character-role (for explanation of the two terms yadayadayada....)

Okay, my role is player, and my character is morenoingrato.

I cannot reveal a Mafia role when I do not have one.



morenoingrato said:

Stefl1504 said:

Some not really important quote...

Well then maybe you should go back and look for ST mistakes^^, well since you are looking like you are going to get lynched either way - care to claim your mafia-role and character-role (for explanation of the two terms yadayadayada....)

Okay, my role is player, and my character is morenoingrato.

I cannot reveal a Mafia role when I do not have one.


So well to put it in other terms... nameclaim and roleclaim? Are you too afraid of using it or is it just that your name states something like Oogie Boogie? You know I am still going easy on you since you are clearly a noob... I got lynched for similar behaviour when I played my first game (though I have to admit I acted a lot crazier than you do know) - I did not even try to really defend myself even though I was a semi-town-character... so why not try to put up something at least trying to be a real defense?