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theprof00 said:

You personally are not crucial. You are the most confirmed townie. We get another one, and we're in a very good place.

Yeah, your response had me make the decision that either my assumption was wrong or lots of other things were wrong. Lazily, I picked the easy way out and determined that my assumption was wrong.

After long consideration, Heph's answer isn't all that great either though "Oh yeah I knew that...except ________".

Actually, i'd though you'd like my answer...basically I said that I believe there are 2 close to confirmed townies, yet didn't say who was the second to not draw him attention.

1 confirmed gives the doc an option. He's a very bad kill choice.

2 confirmed starts to lock the doc on these players without much benefit to the town... though the doc might wander elswere still... protection is halved or more for both townies.

3 confirmed +, the town does have a significant advantage, worth the full time of the doc.

 

well that's my logic at least.



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hatmoza said:
The only way I'll trust Linkz is town is if we proceed with Wonk's lynch and Wonk flips scum. And if that happens, I'll likely get on prof's ass til he's lynched tomorrow.

Last time I said I'd get on prof's ass in a mafia game, he killed me the same night ...

no he died the same day...



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Hephaestos said:
hatmoza said:
The only way I'll trust Linkz is town is if we proceed with Wonk's lynch and Wonk flips scum. And if that happens, I'll likely get on prof's ass til he's lynched tomorrow.

Last time I said I'd get on prof's ass in a mafia game, he killed me the same night ...

no he died the same day...


no boo, he went on and won that game as scum. Unless you're talking about a different game?



I am the black sheep     "of course I'm crazy, but that doesn't mean I'm wrong."-Robert Anton Wilson

hatmoza said:
Hephaestos said:
hatmoza said:
The only way I'll trust Linkz is town is if we proceed with Wonk's lynch and Wonk flips scum. And if that happens, I'll likely get on prof's ass til he's lynched tomorrow.

Last time I said I'd get on prof's ass in a mafia game, he killed me the same night ...

no he died the same day...


no boo, he went on and won that game as scum. Unless you're talking about a different game?

the 999 game :p

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4259772



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Stefl1504 said:
Well actually I was trying to say with my earlier post... feel free to comment on my claim... since I will try to disprove any counterclaims faster than the claimee can try to get himself out of his mess...


good that you're fast, but i'm using slow burn on you ^^



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Hephaestos said:
Stefl1504 said:
Well actually I was trying to say with my earlier post... feel free to comment on my claim... since I will try to disprove any counterclaims faster than the claimee can try to get himself out of his mess...


good that you're fast, but i'm using slow burn on you ^^


So you are afraid of giving any essential information... fine by me^^

I think anything I want to post now is too paranoid to be true... you know... something like you planning the evilest scum sceme ever to get me lynched...



Stefl1504 said:
Hephaestos said:
Stefl1504 said:
Well actually I was trying to say with my earlier post... feel free to comment on my claim... since I will try to disprove any counterclaims faster than the claimee can try to get himself out of his mess...


good that you're fast, but i'm using slow burn on you ^^


So you are afraid of giving any essential information... fine by me^^

I think anything I want to post now is too paranoid to be true... you know... something like you planning the evilest scum sceme ever to get me lynched...

Umh, it's more that you're hard to peel and I don't want to rip out all the onion skins at once to reveal a lie detector ^^.

You have still consistantly made comments that trickled my scum sensor since this round began and I can't ignore these.



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Wonktonodi said:
Hephaestos said:
it seems to me that just criticizing wonk shifts you to the dark side of his visible spectrum. You're just revenge "talking" cause you dare not revenge voting, but that's basically what you explain. "If you aren't scum I'm disappointed in you"

Similarly, people talking and not accusing you are trustworthy... that's a pretty basic picture.

So what about Moreno and prof? they haven't clearly put themselves in the vote or defend category, but surely that shouldn't prevent you from having an opinion of them?


Where is your critism of me? Where are your acusations? If you were to have voted that way on anyone I would tust you less.

There are a few ways I can see townies using votes properly. Voting because you want someone lynched. Voting because you want to pressure the person to do something be it show up more of anser questions, or pressure a person not to do something.

You're vote misses all of those. Your vote was a "I have no idea what linkz is doing but I will join anyway" You have then pretty much done nothing with it and you are now moving on to stefl.

Even with all that I said you moved to neutral. That is still far from my dark side and much of that is from my general opionion of you where I always thing scum.

Hat has used bad logic yesterday as I pointed out. Made connections with himself and ST he wanted someone selse lynched remember? and also the wording he made when he voted. That is all from day 1. He has done even more today like the bandgwagon vote. The fact people aren't jumping all over him just reminds me how in these games it is oftem more about who you are then what you actually do.

Linkz took his time getting on my dark side. It took him ignoring some things, brushing off other things and making some bad contradictory points to lean scum with him.

I have opinion on everyone as I am sure you do as well.

What are your thoughts on all the lurkers?

 

Well my post was about your comments on linkz more than on me.

 

But since you're asking for reasons for my vote, i'll humor you with something that will warant my vote on you all game should I wish to:

Wonktonodi said:
Hephaestos said:

probably the best point made today so far heph

other things of the day

hat claim of cyclopse means little although his rush to vote instead of a hfos or hos is notable

the post that led to hats vote is also worth noting as is the post with the evil laugh

i hate posting by phone i will be able to bowwow a laptop tomorrow

Your second post of the game betrayed you.

Last game you killed me night one because you feared I was on you already, as is not unlike you, your early interactions with me were distansive... but surely, you'll have noticed  how in the dead thread I defined definite proof of your guild based solely on my death.

This round, your initial approach is so unlike you that it sprinted out of the thread and hit me in the eye. Fearing for my life, I dared not test you yesterday when there was but a feeble case on you. Today however is not day one, my pressure on you won't be cut by a no lynch and my throat will not be cut in the night as a result.

 

In short, you chocked when you saw you were scum again and decided to take a radically opposed stance to last game... unfortunately for you, it's also opposed to your usual stance as town, as confessed by yourself : "Even with all that I said you moved to neutral. That is still far from my dark side and much of that is from my general opionion of you where I always thing scum.".

 

What? not enough substance?

well let's add some more of the same:

Wonktonodi said:
Linkzmax said:

Wonktonodi said:

 you don't talk about the game with anyone here about the game outside of here. (unless you are mafia in wich case you and they would have a place to talk at night)

This should be "You don't talk about the game anywhere else, period. (unless given a link to speak outside of the thread)"

I say that because nobody should be asking for help on other sites or even IRL.(though it's unlikely you'd know somebody IRL and not know they're on VGC) You never know who might read it or catch wind of it.


Thanks you did word that better.

I think it might be beneficial if you word how to use EBWOP better since noctis seems to not quite get it.

Not quite as complimenting... just presenting linkz as the perfect player that can explain anything to anyone perfectly, you know, as anyone would do of players they suspect in a game all the while parenting new players...

 

guess what, compliments in mafia to players you have a fixed stance on are tells.

An that is, how you taged yourself scum on your second post, Mr Llama.

 

 

(on the lurker question... Son1x is troublesome, Baal should act, I've quoted him twice already with no reaction and radish was at the ready day 1).



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Hell everyone, did you miss me. probably not

I find it interesting that Final-Fan shows almost no hesitation to come in here and throw a vote down on a player with questionable evidence. But had multiple opportunities to vote Silver-Tiger, and made excuses and kept claiming he may vote later, a vote that never came. Not to mention that he also defended Silver-Tigers "vengeful" mafia comment.

Moreno is another one I have noticed mentions voting from the first day but never did it either. But he made sure to stay away from Silver-Tiger despite being the main topic of conversation after the mod kill. He was also real interested in when the night was showing up as well.



On my phone and cant quote.
@hat
I will e happy when i see you defend every scum while i lynch them. In fact, im alteady happy that the vengeful mafia role claim was bullshit, because it reminds me of that bullshit anti town survivor claim that you so clung to.

Just sit back and watch how the pros do it.





Im just fuckin around bro. You know i love you.
But seriously, wake up man. Chasing me around is only going to make you look less royal.