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theprof00 said:
Hephaestos said:
meh, there's a few that aught to be voted on for disappearing... then again i haven't been much present in the past 48 hours either (work after a long weekend :x).
I'd be tempted to let prof loose on the new players, but not sure I'd vote them day one, so he'd be pissed in the end.

@I'm a bit confused from your whole discution on the subject, and considering last round had talking mafia, I don't see it as a bad assumption.... especially with a 7 day time limit for day one (that's a lot of slipping for scum to do without coordinating). Then again, if it had been 5 rounds ago, i wouldn't be as quick to accept the assumption as valid.

I wish I hadn't asked for opinions.

I'll thank you for your opinion and leave it at that. I don't want to disrupt anything that's going on right now, because I'd love to see ST burn for that vengeful mafia comment.

Okay I got it in order again^^ I thought prof also voted when he posted that he wanted to see ST burn..



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Stefl1504 said:
Linkzmax said:

hatmoza said:

blublub...

 

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Somehow I get the feeling you really are a mason^^

@ prof - to avoid misunderstanding - with current candidate you mean st?

well I guess it wouldn't be a waist of the doc's time even if he's not. Linkz is a valuable player so he'd be targeted either way. (just talking in case one of the new players is the doc... and of course, the most worthy of protection is me as...errr...oh, yeah, I died first day last round :'(  :cute: ).



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I'm gonna laugh my head off if Linkz and heph were actually scum buddies.



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theprof00 said:
This isn't going anywhere. I don't have anything concrete on you and everyone has gone silent once again..perhaps savouring the distraction?

Lemme know when you're willing to drop your rule against lynching newbs.


“The silence of the people is a warning for the king”



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Hephaestos said:
Stefl1504 said:

Somehow I get the feeling you really are a mason^^

@ prof - to avoid misunderstanding - with current candidate you mean st?

well I guess it wouldn't be a waist of the doc's time even if he's not. Linkz is a valuable player so he'd be targeted either way. (just talking in case one of the new players is the doc... and of course, the most worthy of protection is me as...errr...oh, yeah, I died first day last round :'(  :cute: ).

Oh how I dislike these kinds of posts, especially if it's about me. This gives the impression you think me town, as why else would I be deserving of doc protection? Sadly I don't think it's ever held as a tell nor I haven't felt anything scummy from you yet, so I'll leave my vote where it is and just keep a close eye on you. I would ask for the cop/tracker/investigative role to consider scanning you though.

As for doc protection, I certainly wouldn't mind being around in future days, but I don't think I'm most deserving of it. Perhaps if ST is lynched and flips mafia, so that I can hopefully continue to pick them off.(Though I'd give credit to Trucks as well)



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hatmoza said:
I'm gonna laugh my head off if Linkz and heph were actually scum buddies.

I can't speak for Heph, but my alignment is going to leave you unamused.

No comments on your blunder?



Linkzmax said:
Silver-Tiger said:

Vengeful as in:

"Vengeful player is a one that, when lynched, is awarded the ability to kill any other player as they die." from mafiascum.net.

The role came to my mind because I had the same role last round.

That's what I figured you meant by it, but I wanted to be sure.

Your "thoughts" and vote simply don't add up. You talk about his absense, yet I feel like others weren't very present during the time either.(probably myself included) I would have to do postals to check that, and I don't like them much anymore nor do I have the time. Whether true or not, it was a very weak reason. As for the introduction, you never explained pre or post-modkill what made it so scummy. Heph is the only one I remember that addressed it and said he wouldn't expect it from mafia, but possibly third-party. So another strike for that. Then you say "I hope for you that you're scum", which makes no sense at all.

Next you show no hesitance at lynching MJD if you actually thought he was Vengeful Mafia. There's no sense of 'wait, this is exactly what MJD wants', thus I'm left thinking it was an artificial thought. Also, with all the concern you present at possibly losing a townie, you show none for the possibility of giving mafia two choices of who they pick off.(Vengeful + Night Kill)

Finally, you were convinced that he's scum yet still straddled with uncertainty when you said he should ask for replacement. And later you reaffirm that you  were certain he was scum. The problem is you state you didn't want to lynch him, but pressure him. Caught scum knows they're dead to rights and so they don't give away anything but WIFOM,(link for anyone unfamiliar) so voting with insistence that he's certain scum is exactly what you shouldn't have done.

I was going to vote you last night, but I didn't get to finish my reread before sleep beckoned. Nothing since then has made me believe anyone else is more likely scum then you though. So without further ado

Vote: Silver-Tiger

You make a fairly good case against ST based on his "I'm certain he's scum, but let's get a mod replacement."  But you also make a point I disagree with completely. 

"There's no sense of 'wait, this is exactly what MJD wants'..."  I know lynching a Vengeful Mafia would mean one of us dies, but what the hell else are we supposed to do?  Ask them to pretty please commit suicide?  Pray for a vigilante?  One-for-one is a good trade if you ask me, especially as a Day One lynch. 

As for ST's saying he was hoping the pressure would make Marcus betray fellow mafia, it's true no good mafia player would do that, but we've seen counterexamples and he wasn't exactly in top form so it would have been reasonable to hope for a slip IMO. 

I'm not convinced I should vote ST, even instead of not voting anybody.  It is only Day One after all. 



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And yeah now that I've had time to think about it I don't think Linkz's comment about Marcus' flip is likely to be any kind of slip.



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Final-Fan said:

"There's no sense of 'wait, this is exactly what MJD wants'..."  I know lynching a Vengeful Mafia would mean one of us dies, but what the hell else are we supposed to do?  Ask them to pretty please commit suicide?  Pray for a vigilante?  One-for-one is a good trade if you ask me, especially as a Day One lynch.  

I can say with complete certainty that if there ever is a Vengeful Mafia, a good host will give town some way to counter it.

One-for-one is great, except that if it's Vengeful you're still allowing mafia to choose which town is given up. With ST's apparent concern of losing even a potential townie in a newbie player, I don't believe he'd be keen on letting mafia choose to pick off anybody they want, which would likely be a higher profile player.



Flavor and votals will be posted soon as promised.

Due to having zero internet access this weekend (Friday evening to Sunday evening), the time limit is being extended until Sunday evening at 9 PM Central time.

Somebody is more than welcome to post votals (just make certain that they are correct). If the day finishes before then (8 votes required for a lynch), we will simply have to have a long twilight :

Sorry for the abrupt inconvenience.



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