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Fucked by the mod, not surprised there



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Vetteman94 said:
Fucked by the mod, not surprised there

No, you weren't fucked by the mod, so don't even try to blame it on me.  You were fucked by hatmoza.

He was specifically told that just the same as Stefl that if he would reveal to others he had been punished, he would be modkilled.  He revealed that he was punished, knowing perfectly well it would immediately result in a No Lynch result for the day.

Maybe you were just unable to do the simple ass math?  There were 2 votes for No Lynch.  Hatmoza revealed he had been punished.  A modkill would have made it 3 people.  A majority of 3 people is 2 votes, which is what was already cast on "No Lynch".  Not sure where the hell you are getting that the no lynch shouldn't have happened if hatmoza gets modkilled, but I laid it out nice and simply so nobody could possibly come to the conclusion a no lynch wouldn't have happened.

Please don't tell me you still disagree with me, or I might poop my pants.

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Flavor still scheduled for tonight, just taking another break from work



Money can't buy happiness. Just video games, which make me happy.

Cyclops never did understand how the town accepted him as a cop. He was nothing more than a one eyed creep. Having difficulty understanding how Halloween Town accepted him, Cyclops went into a state of depression.

Every day, he continued to feel worse and worse. Despite being so close to the bright spot on the horizon, he simply could not take it any longer. While the man known to be a shooter was practicing some more shooting, Cyclops very slowly crawled up to the target being shot at, and quickly jumped in front of it.

It was nearly instantaneous. Cyclops whole entire body went rigid as a bullet passed through it, and a huge look of shock crossed the shooters face.

Not wanting anybody to find out what had happened, the shooter loaded his ten remaining bullets into the chamber, and took precise shots at Cyclops body until nothing was remaining but a pile of goo. Quickly walking up to the pile, the shooter dug a small hole in the dirt next to it, and pushed the goo in. Only a small heap of dirt was visible where the goo had been buried.

Hatmoza has been modkilled. He was Cyclops, the Town Cop.

Not having any clue where the cop went, the town was unsure of who else could possibly be in charge of all of the brutal murders that had been happening.

Feeling it was for the best, it was decided by way of majority not to take anybody else out in this particular day.

No Lynch has occurred. Night 4 Start. Please send me your actions via PM.



Money can't buy happiness. Just video games, which make me happy.

No actually baalz. Giving penalties to people who roleclaim is understandable but running a dictatorship on what people are to say, or flat out limiting them by threatening to a modkill is off the wall. So you did screw us over.

You should have placed that in the OP.

Blame yourself for the exploit.

Stefl's modkill was bullshit and I just took it to the next level to show my stance on the matter.



I am the black sheep     "of course I'm crazy, but that doesn't mean I'm wrong."-Robert Anton Wilson

Vetteman94 said:
Fucked by the mod, not surprised there


yep, basically.  stefl and I were fucked by the mod.

 

 

 

Can someone in the dead thread be a darling and pm me the link? Thanks.



I am the black sheep     "of course I'm crazy, but that doesn't mean I'm wrong."-Robert Anton Wilson

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hatmoza said:

No actually baalz. Giving penalties to people who roleclaim is understandable but running a dictatorship on what people are to say, or flat out limiting them by threatening to a modkill is off the wall. So you did screw us over.

You should have placed that in the OP.

Blame yourself for the exploit.

Stefl's modkill was bullshit and I just took it to the next level to show my stance on the matter.

Role reveals ARE also allowed, but there will be a penalty.  Due to the circumstances of the game and people being able to deduce what somebody is based on the punishment they received, the potential punishments that one may receive for role claiming will NOT be provided.  Please understand, if/when you role claim, there IS a punishment, so do so at your own risk.

I'll go over this slowly, so I can get your incredibly stupid ass egotistical brain to figure it out.

There will be a penalty. 

-Ok, so we know there will be a penalty.

Circumstances of the game.  Deduce what somebody is based on the punishment they received.

-Ok, so clearly I am worried about other players being able to deduce who somebody is just because they were punished.  You see, in a game such as this, we have people who try to break the game.  I swear every time a game says it will have a punishment, somebody comes up with the brilliant idea, "lets all claim such and such so we can rule it out for certain players."

Potential punishments...will NOT be provided.

-So while it is known that there are punishments, it is unknown what they are.

IS a punishment...do so at your own risk.

-I'm clearly telling people there is a punishment, and that they are roleclaiming at their own risk.  They have been forewarned that they will receive punishment.

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Hmm, so if potential punishments will not be provided, one has to simply determine if they believe roleclaiming will overcome any potential punishment they can think of.

Even though potential punishments weren't to be provided, I apparently should have informed people that part of your punishment will be you can't tell people you were punished?  I'll keep that in mind next time, or not.

Stefl roleclaimed at his own risk.  Upon being punished, he knew perfectly well he could not reveal to anybody else he had been punished.  He even sent me a message right before he finally revealed this information, and said he simply couldn't take it any more, and knew I would modkill him.

You roleclaimed at your own risk.  Upon being punished, you knew perfectly well that you could not reveal to anybody else that you had been punished.  Despite this, you come into the thread, and say you can't stand it anymore, reveal that you have been punished, and state you knew I would modkill you.

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Funny how in both circumstances, both people knew perfectly well while revealing they were punished it would result in their modkill, and revealed they knew this would happen.

What I also find funny about the entire situation is that it isn't even that fucking hard to keep your god damned trap shut, and just not tell anybody you were punished.  If you can't do that, then you shouldn't have roleclaimed, because you knew perfectly well that you would be punished.

What I find funniest yet about the situation is that the town still stood a perfectly legitimate chance to win if it wouldn't have been for mr. ego thinking he had to decide the outcome of the game for everybody else.

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In the end, it wasn't my rules that were the final step toward town losing.  It was YOUR decision that led to the town losing.



Money can't buy happiness. Just video games, which make me happy.

Baalzamon said:
hatmoza said:

No actually baalz. Giving penalties to people who roleclaim is understandable but running a dictatorship on what people are to say, or flat out limiting them by threatening to a modkill is off the wall. So you did screw us over.

You should have placed that in the OP.

Blame yourself for the exploit.

Stefl's modkill was bullshit and I just took it to the next level to show my stance on the matter.

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In the end, it wasn't my rules that were the final step toward town losing.  It was YOUR decision that led to the town losing.

and I deliberately ended the game that way to prove the point that your game was broken. You don't restrict what people say.

The more you apply laws and rules, the easier they are to break. trying to shut stefl or me up and I'm bound to make my voice clear. I don't care what others think, I don't care if I'm hated. I don't care for criticisms ... never did. My point will be remembered for the remainder of VGC mafia and that's all that matters. You don't make rules as the game is going, and that's a point I've made countless times and I'm not afraid to post them. Even in the dead thread you admit to your shitty hosting, and that's not including the mistakes I'm mentioning. You don't try to rebake an already burnt cake. It just makes it shittier.



I am the black sheep     "of course I'm crazy, but that doesn't mean I'm wrong."-Robert Anton Wilson

Baalzamon said:
hatmoza said:

No actually baalz. Giving penalties to people who roleclaim is understandable but running a dictatorship on what people are to say, or flat out limiting them by threatening to a modkill is off the wall. So you did screw us over.

You should have placed that in the OP.

Blame yourself for the exploit.

Stefl's modkill was bullshit and I just took it to the next level to show my stance on the matter.

What I also find funny about the entire situation is that it isn't even that fucking hard to keep your god damned trap shut, and just not tell anybody you were punished.  If you can't do that, then you shouldn't have roleclaimed, because you knew perfectly well that you would be punished.

 


Like I said, your job is not to keep players mouths shut. Your job is to host and apply the regular rules, or mention any new rules in a non ambiguous matter. I don't keep my mouth shut. It's not my style, don't try to stop me from how I like to enjoy the way I play mafia.

and der der der der deeeerp. Of course I knew the town could win. I stated my ace way early in the game, which (everyone already figured out in the dead thread) was getting modkilled so players would see my flip in the OP. Arrogance got the best of you this game and you tried to manipulate the raw flow of the game ...  There's my reward to you for trying to control it ...



I am the black sheep     "of course I'm crazy, but that doesn't mean I'm wrong."-Robert Anton Wilson

Baalzamon said:
hatmoza said:

No actually baalz. Giving penalties to people who roleclaim is understandable but running a dictatorship on what people are to say, or flat out limiting them by threatening to a modkill is off the wall. So you did screw us over.

You should have placed that in the OP.

Blame yourself for the exploit.

Stefl's modkill was bullshit and I just took it to the next level to show my stance on the matter.

Stefl roleclaimed at his own risk.  Upon being punished, he knew perfectly well he could not reveal to anybody else he had been punished.  He even sent me a message right before he finally revealed this information, and said he simply couldn't take it any more, and knew I would modkill him.

No, stefl restriction was complete and utter bullshit. Go. Look back at how he struggled to communicate because you found it necessary to restrict him. He may see no problem with it but I do. It's like you cut the feet from underneath him. It was unnatural.

That goes for any future mods, don't go against the grain, the natural flow of the game. Some shit is not meant to be controlled.

I'm against penalties from now on because some twats can't take the responsible of screwing up..



I am the black sheep     "of course I'm crazy, but that doesn't mean I'm wrong."-Robert Anton Wilson

and lol, you mention in the dead thread you regret not punishing certain people.

Go take your double standards and shove them straight up your ass.



I am the black sheep     "of course I'm crazy, but that doesn't mean I'm wrong."-Robert Anton Wilson