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Michael-5 on 01 December 2011
nightsurge said:
thismeintiel said:
nightsurge said:
2 things, which I am sure have already been covered in this thread.

1 - Black Friday week looks like the Xbox 360 will erase a good 500k or more from the lead in just that one week by itself. Makes it a lot more possible then for the remaining weeks to make up the deficit.

2 - We don't know for sure, or at least I have not seen it specified anywhere, whether MS meant the calendar year or their fiscal year. If they have until next June when their fiscal year ends, I am sure they will accomplish this feat with ease as they are in prime position for major price cutting ventures (Have been for over a year now, it's amazing they haven't cut the price in 3 years. They have to be making gargantuan profit margins on all SKUs).

@ #2

It's been mentioned in this thread, as well as others, several times that MS meant the calender year 2011.

Link please? I want to know where Microsoft clarified this, not where forum posters have thought it was calendar year.

Either way, after the Black Friday sales week that lead will be much lower, so I think it is still possible. The Xbox has done it before in Holiday 2008, where it went from being DOWN by 1 million to UP by over 1 million so basically a 2 million shift in just a few short months. 

Look back a few pages. I thought the same thing as you, I swore Ms said fiscal year, but thismeintiel gave me a link. It's a bit back, probably 30 posts or so.

Still calandar year, with the crazy price cut on Black Friday, it's possible. Depends on if 360 prices go back up or not. I don't think it will happen, but the lead might be cut down to 500k.



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Michael-5 on 01 December 2011
smbu2000 said:
Michael-5 said:
Seece said:
Michael-5 said:
287k lead over next 5 weeks?

Maybe next week 360 can pull that off, but for 5 weeks, no.

I think I will be right overall though. PS3 will win 2011, but by less then 1 million, maybe even just 500k.

360 should close the gap to 1 mill this week, so 200k over the next 5 weeks. Which isn't remotely difficult with the momentum it has. Black Friday week sales are never above Christmas week sales for any system, 360 will do 1.2/1.3M this week WW, so is a shoe in for 1.5M xmas week.

How do you even check yearly sales? This new VGC update has really downgraded some of the features we once had....

Doing some math, the difference at the start of the year was 3.85, now it's 2.6. So PS3 is 1.25million ahead of 360 YoY. 360 should get that difference to under 1 million, and with a few strong weeks before christmas, I think 500k is possible.

Oh yea, wow 360 did break 1 million this week. When I read it did 950k, I forgot that's just for Americas. 1.2-1.3 million is pushing it, but 1.1-1.2 for sure. Curious to see how well PS3 did.

Actually that 960k for BF week was just for the USA only. It does not include any other countries in the Americas (Canada, etc.).

http://majornelson.com/2011/11/29/xbox-360-records-the-biggest-week-in-xbox-history/

Sales highlights in the U.S. during the week of Black Friday include:

  • Xbox 360 sold more than 960,000 consoles in the U.S. alone, of which more than 800,000 were sold within a period of 24 hours – the biggest week of sales in Xbox history. (Source: Internal data)

Well there is no Black Friday in Canada, so it won't boost sales that much. numbers should still be over 1 million. VGC have it at 966k for USA only.



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thismeintiel on 01 December 2011
Michael-5 said:
Oh oh!!! Battle on

thismeintiel - has a picture of some fat guy with his moth open
Seece - has a picture of some guy....

FIGHT!

HEY!  That isn't just SOME GUY!  That is fucking Will Sasso playing Kenny Rogers from Mad TV.  Geez...



 

Seece on 01 December 2011
Michael-5 said:
Seece said:
Michael-5 said:
287k lead over next 5 weeks?

Maybe next week 360 can pull that off, but for 5 weeks, no.

I think I will be right overall though. PS3 will win 2011, but by less then 1 million, maybe even just 500k.

360 should close the gap to 1 mill this week, so 200k over the next 5 weeks. Which isn't remotely difficult with the momentum it has. Black Friday week sales are never above Christmas week sales for any system, 360 will do 1.2/1.3M this week WW, so is a shoe in for 1.5M xmas week.

How do you even check yearly sales? This new VGC update has really downgraded some of the features we once had....

Doing some math, the difference at the start of the year was 3.85, now it's 2.6. So PS3 is 1.25million ahead of 360 YoY. 360 should get that difference to under 1 million, and with a few strong weeks before christmas, I think 500k is possible.

Oh yea, wow 360 did break 1 million this week. When I read it did 950k, I forgot that's just for Americas. 1.2-1.3 million is pushing it, but 1.1-1.2 for sure. Curious to see how well PS3 did.

Seen as you seem to be saying something of the same nature EVERYWHERE, I'll say it one last bloody time. Now LISTEN.

The. Site. Is. Not. Finished.

All that stuff is coming back, stop moaning.



 

thismeintiel on 01 December 2011
Michael-5 said:
nightsurge said:
thismeintiel said:
nightsurge said:
2 things, which I am sure have already been covered in this thread.

1 - Black Friday week looks like the Xbox 360 will erase a good 500k or more from the lead in just that one week by itself. Makes it a lot more possible then for the remaining weeks to make up the deficit.

2 - We don't know for sure, or at least I have not seen it specified anywhere, whether MS meant the calendar year or their fiscal year. If they have until next June when their fiscal year ends, I am sure they will accomplish this feat with ease as they are in prime position for major price cutting ventures (Have been for over a year now, it's amazing they haven't cut the price in 3 years. They have to be making gargantuan profit margins on all SKUs).

@ #2

It's been mentioned in this thread, as well as others, several times that MS meant the calender year 2011.

Link please? I want to know where Microsoft clarified this, not where forum posters have thought it was calendar year.

Either way, after the Black Friday sales week that lead will be much lower, so I think it is still possible. The Xbox has done it before in Holiday 2008, where it went from being DOWN by 1 million to UP by over 1 million so basically a 2 million shift in just a few short months. 

Look back a few pages. I thought the same thing as you, I swore Ms said fiscal year, but thismeintiel gave me a link. It's a bit back, probably 30 posts or so.

Still calandar year, with the crazy price cut on Black Friday, it's possible. Depends on if 360 prices go back up or not. I don't think it will happen, but the lead might be cut down to 500k.

It's cool, I'll post them again.  Here, in June, MS speaks about the 2nd half of the year making 360 history and becoming #1 WW by the end of the year.  Then here and here they just reiterate that point, saying the holidays will help them become the #1 selling console WW in 2011.

The prices will go up to normal now that Black Friday has ended, they always do.  You are right, though, it has made things much closer.  Which makes things more fun. 



 

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smbu2000 on 02 December 2011
Seece said:

Seen as you seem to be saying something of the same nature EVERYWHERE, I'll say it one last bloody time. Now LISTEN.

The. Site. Is. Not. Finished.

All that stuff is coming back, stop moaning.

But if people don't whine and moan, then what else will they have to do while waiting for new numbers??? Play games? Bah, what kind ridiculous idea that would be!

;-p




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Seece on 02 December 2011
smbu2000 said:
Seece said:
 

Seen as you seem to be saying something of the same nature EVERYWHERE, I'll say it one last bloody time. Now LISTEN.

The. Site. Is. Not. Finished.

All that stuff is coming back, stop moaning.

But if people don't whine and moan, then what else will they have to do while waiting for new numbers??? Play games? Bah, what kind ridiculous idea that would be!

;-p

Play Rayman!!!



 

thismeintiel on 02 December 2011
smbu2000 said:
Seece said:

Seen as you seem to be saying something of the same nature EVERYWHERE, I'll say it one last bloody time. Now LISTEN.

The. Site. Is. Not. Finished.

All that stuff is coming back, stop moaning.

But if people don't whine and moan, then what else will they have to do while waiting for new numbers??? Play games? Bah, what kind ridiculous idea that would be!

;-p



What are these "games" you speak of?

 

reviniente on 03 December 2011
smbu2000 said:
Seece said:
 

Seen as you seem to be saying something of the same nature EVERYWHERE, I'll say it one last bloody time. Now LISTEN.

The. Site. Is. Not. Finished.

All that stuff is coming back, stop moaning.

But if people don't whine and moan, then what else will they have to do while waiting for new numbers??? Play games? Bah, what kind ridiculous idea that would be!

;-p

Whatever they do, I don't wan't to hear them moaning. [shivers]