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Machina said:
Boy, am I glad I ain't reviewing Uncharted 3.

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OP: Here is the full comment from the topmost example you post from the forums, is this really so bad? I think he makes some pretty good points here to be honest. I noticed much the same with IGN's video review of BF3, they rag on the game for housing quicktime events and having Russians as villains in the main campaign, both which are hallmarks of the MW series. Just shows how franchises can be treated differently sometimes.

"As good as Gears of War 3, Red Dead Redemption and Metal Gear Solid 4? This game must be absolutely amazing! November 2nd can't come quick enough.

Edit:- Just to add, if EG are knocking 2 whole points off this for being too familiar, I fully expect the next COD game to get a 4/10 with the following quote:-

"Polished, addictive and fun. But we've said the same thing 4 years in a row now, so we're giving it a score it fully deserves for not changing one single bit."

Won't happen though. I've no complaints about the final score, 8/10 is excellent, but EG don't apply the same logic present in this review to other, more popular games.

Edit 2:- Has anyone else noticed how the site has transformed into "Battlefieldgamer" since the re-launch? Here's what I've noticed so far. There's a countdown to launch trailer at the very top of the screen for Battlefield 3. Right underneath it there's a massive banner telling you to pre-order the game from Play.com.


Look to the right of the screen and you'll see a link to the BF3 "microsite" along with a bunch of EG videos of the games. Underneath those videoes there is yet another option to pre-order the game. Scroll down a little further and there are a bunch of BF3 articles and yet another fucking banner to pre-order the game. Now look to the left of the screen. Yup, 2 points, it's another ad for BF3. Finally scroll down towards the bottom of the page and one final banner will be advertising Battlefuckingfield 3.


So EG, are you seriously telling me you haven't sold out and BF3 gaining at least a 9/10 or higher from you has absolutely nothing to do with the absolute eye raping advertising EA paid you to do? Your site has lost all credibility in my eyes and the only reason I'm still reading it is the witty banter from the forum members. You're a shadow of the site I used to frequent over 6 years ago.


I'm a third year journalism student and I've read a lot on how companies pay off certain publications for favourable coverage. So you're not kidding me with your crap anymore. Anybody else that still expects EG to deliver news completely unbiassed should think again. They're just another sell out."

Now, I'm not whining about the score, the score is fine and won't affect my experience with the game but the comments aren't really that bad, on average its more or less what you see for most game reviews; some agree, others disagree and a few are utter tits on the forums. This is hardly a phenomenon unique to this franchise and platform and I'm sort of starting to lose sight of what the purpose of the OP really is.



Porcupine_I said:
hahha, that is hilarious, almost as sad as people spending lots of time posting intentionally bad news about something they hate

zing!!!



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Rainbow Yoshi said:
Gamereactor Denmark's review was bad, they awarded the same score as Eurogamer but the way they planned the review out was atrocious. They couldn't tally their overall score up correctly either.



There is nothing to tally, it's an overal score not an average of the component scores



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Kantor said:

I have problems with that EuroGamer review, and it has nothing to do with the score.

Take a look here: http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/uncharted-2-among-thieves-review

A review from the same publication of a game in the same series. Ignore the score; the score is irrelevant. Look at what he says and you'll find that he's actually saying exactly the same thing, but saying it in a positive light.

Wherever possible, a sequel to a game your publication has reviewed should be reviewed by the same person. That's our policy, and it should be EuroGamer's policy. What do you do if the reviewer of Uncharted 2 adored it, and you didn't? It's pretty clear from the review of Uncharted 3 that the reviewer didn't adore Uncharted 2, because everything he said about excessive cinematics and control being out of the player's hands applies to Uncharted 2 as well.

In the event that it has to be reviewed by someone else, that person does have to take the Uncharted 2 review into account. Think. The people who loved Uncharted 2 are exactly Uncharted 3's target audience. You could be reviewing it for someone who hates all games except Angry Birds and Farmville, and they would find it unnecessarily heavy-handed and complicated. That person would never consider purchasing Uncharted 3, even if you gave it 11/10.

The Uncharted 3 review is a fantastic editorial on the state of the gaming medium and honestly quite an awful review. It's like reviewing Gran Turismo and pondering why on earth anybody would want to make a game about driving cars. The Uncharted franchise, and hell, the entire action adventure genre, is based on cinematics and structure. Would the game honestly be improved if slightly misjudging a jump made you plummet to your death? It's an intentional design choice, and one which has clearly gone over well with pretty much everyone else who has played the game.

A review is not solely an opinion; it is an analysis and appraisal of different parts of the game. That review was an opinion. It would have been great as a blog post, or an editorial, or with some more colourful language, even a rant, but it isn't fair to the game and it isn't honest to fans of the series and the genre, and for that reason, not an arbitrary score, it's not a good review.

EDIT: I should point out that the quality of the writing was fantastic as usual, and that other than this slight hitch, EuroGamer is still one of the best review sites out there. Better, indeed, than the majority of sites that gave Uncharted 3 a 10/10. The review isn't trying to be controversial in the slightest; it's just excessively philosophical and not analytical enough.

Spot on.



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padib said:
mantlepiecek said:
Are you telling me that this sh*t didn't happen when gears of war 3 released??

Huh?

I guess cherry picking for the win uh? "Uncharted brings the worst" what f*(king bullsh*t.

It's not a coincidence. Nintendo and Sony fans are generally way too involved into their fandom from what I've experienced this far. Then again I haven't seen much of it on VGChartz lately so that's a good thing. David Jeffe said it well himself:

"[it has] everything to do with the sad state of game consumers who have been so effectively conditioned by a number of the gaming press/gaming PR machines  that these gamers leap to a title's defense-not that this gem of a game needs defending- without even being open to the reviewer's criticism (be it valid or not). That's tragic. What's even more tragic is I would argue the games medium itself has been damaged by this practice. Irrevocably? No. But it has taken its toll for sure."

I'm done buying what a company wants me to buy (I was done a few years ago actually). I just buy good games wherever they are, period. The whole "I like this game because it's on my favorite company's platform" is really just dumb. Lots of games/movies like Uncharted came out years ago like Tomb Raider and Indiana Jones. Tomb Raider has nobody ever complaining so if something like this happened, it just seems because it's a Sony exclusive all of a sudden it becomes part of some untoucheable cloud with some people. It's insane.

And no, we don't remember this shit happening for Gears of war, and your upset attitude also proves the matter a bit. Instead shouldn't you be facepalming at all the retarded comments scooped up from that pile of tard?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AvTgLTrTfqE

http://www.destructoid.com/cliffy-b-upset-by-hateful-8-10-gears-of-war-3-reviews-211562.phtml

cliffy cried like a little bitch when his game was reviewed in a certain way and so did gears fans... this has nothing to do with one particular company its a problem that is spread across gaming in general



Odd that they mentioned GiantBomb. Gerstmann should know how these things go down better than anyone



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Its interesting they'd whine about an 80% outlier for a 94 MC game.

Go look at the scores for Arkham Asylum. It's ranked higher at 95 overall, and still had two major outliers in Destructoid and Gamerkult.

Outliers happen. What shouldn't happen is fanboy bloody reactions to the outliers... So what? What should a bad score mean to you? I mean, my wife's game of the generation is a game under a 50 MC score. People are stupid.. Just enjoy what you want to enjoy, and leave the scores for the critics.



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o_O.Q said:
padib said:
mantlepiecek said:
Are you telling me that this sh*t didn't happen when gears of war 3 released??

Huh?

I guess cherry picking for the win uh? "Uncharted brings the worst" what f*(king bullsh*t.

It's not a coincidence. Nintendo and Sony fans are generally way too involved into their fandom from what I've experienced this far. Then again I haven't seen much of it on VGChartz lately so that's a good thing. David Jeffe said it well himself:

"[it has] everything to do with the sad state of game consumers who have been so effectively conditioned by a number of the gaming press/gaming PR machines  that these gamers leap to a title's defense-not that this gem of a game needs defending- without even being open to the reviewer's criticism (be it valid or not). That's tragic. What's even more tragic is I would argue the games medium itself has been damaged by this practice. Irrevocably? No. But it has taken its toll for sure."

I'm done buying what a company wants me to buy (I was done a few years ago actually). I just buy good games wherever they are, period. The whole "I like this game because it's on my favorite company's platform" is really just dumb. Lots of games/movies like Uncharted came out years ago like Tomb Raider and Indiana Jones. Tomb Raider has nobody ever complaining so if something like this happened, it just seems because it's a Sony exclusive all of a sudden it becomes part of some untoucheable cloud with some people. It's insane.

And no, we don't remember this shit happening for Gears of war, and your upset attitude also proves the matter a bit. Instead shouldn't you be facepalming at all the retarded comments scooped up from that pile of tard?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AvTgLTrTfqE

http://www.destructoid.com/cliffy-b-upset-by-hateful-8-10-gears-of-war-3-reviews-211562.phtml

cliffy cried like a little bitch when his game was reviewed in a certain way and so did gears fans... this has nothing to do with one particular company its a problem that is spread across gaming in general

What is it with Cliffy B? He has the brain of a kid, he is so unprofessional too.



Machina said:
Boy, am I glad I ain't reviewing Uncharted 3.

Can you tell us who is so we can start a pre-emptive witch burning?