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Ron Paul vs Huckabee will be awesome. There will be fireworks! That would be the ugliest political election. I hope this happens.

Bloomberg vs. Obama - yawn!

What happened to Hilary?
If Obama wins then he needs to get Hilary as V.P.
That would be fun as well.

Overall, if really doesn't matter who wins at the end. I think these candidates all go to bed together at night anyways.



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Coca-Cola said:
Ron Paul vs Huckabee will be awesome. There will be fireworks! That would be the ugliest political election. I hope this happens.

Bloomberg vs. Obama - yawn!

What happened to Hilary?
If Obama wins then he needs to get Hilary as V.P.
That would be fun as well.

Overall, if really doesn't matter who wins at the end. I think these candidates all go to bed together at night anyways.

 Not Hilary...Gore.

An Obama/Gore ticket would give me hope for this country once again. 



TheSource said:
2008 County Convention (Wyoming)




CountyDelegate or AlternateNamePresidential Candidate
AlbanyDelegateTammy JohnsonMitt Romney
Big HornAlternate

CampbellDelegate

CarbonAlternate

ConverseDelegate

CrookDelegate

FremontDelegate

GoshenDelegateEd BuchananFred Thompson
Hot SpringsDelegate

JohnsonAlternate

LaramieDelegateLeigh VoslerMitt Romney
LaramieAlternateDiane AsayMitt Romney
LincolnAlternateMarti HalversonMitt Romney
NatronaAlternate

NiobraraAlternatePaul KruseFred Thompson
ParkAlternateMarilyn TaylorMitt Romney
PlatteAlternateMarlin DriskellDuncan Hunter
SheridanDelegateRandi CraigDuncan Hunter
SubletteAlternateBill CramerJohn McCain
SweetwaterDelegate

TetonDelegateJoseph SchlossMitt Romney
UintaDelegateDean StoutMitt Romney
WashakieAlternate

WestonAlternateDonna BunchUndeclared

 

Here are the results so far.


Since I'm not from the US, what does delegate/alternate means? Wyoming isn't a winner takes all state? Or is that never the case with primaries?



Gore already said he is not running.  Plus he is a celebrity now.

I don't think Hilary will run as a V.P. either though.  Too much pride.  ( I wouldn't blame her)

I know it's early but it would be interesting to see who Obama will choose as his running mate.  (edswards?)  He's gotta be a big name candidate. 



By moving their caucus up, Wyoming lost its right to have 24 delegates, which is why only 12 delegates are listed.  If candidates who drop out had delegates, they can give them to surviving candidates.  I'm pretty sure the alternates are there just in case something happens to the delegates, but I'm not 100% on that.



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Coca-Cola said:

Gore already said he is not running. Plus he is a celebrity now.

I don't think Hilary will run as a V.P. either though. Too much pride. ( I wouldn't blame her)

I know it's early but it would be interesting to see who Obama will choose as his running mate. (edswards?) He's gotta be a big name candidate.


 Correct me if I'm wrong, but the VP can come from anywhere.  Gore is not running for prez....but I'm sure he canbe chosen as a running mate.



By watching the news today, you'd never know that Wyoming was having its own caucus. Keep us posted The Source



TheSource said:

I dislike or hate all of the Republican candidates, except for Ron Paul, as I don't mind the government interfering with economics much, but I do resent the government interfering with moral issues.

In that sense, I waver between being a leftist revolutionary and a libertarian.



 I don't want to start a whole thing about this, but you should really look in to Ron Pauls "We The People Act" if you want to see what Ron Paul thinks about infringing upon moral issues, because he really doesnt' seem to mind it at all.  

He is not the "hands off" type of guy that a true libertarian candidate would be; he is in fact a fundamentalist christian who has no problems pushing fundamentalist christian beliefs.   

 Thankfully he's not going anywhere fast.    



TheSource said:

By the way, Duncan Hunter won a county too....strange.

We'll have to wait and see with this election.  If Ron Paul keeps beating one to three 'Republican mainstream candidates' per caucus/primary, he might as well run as a third party guy, simply because he'll have enough power to stop a mainstream Republican victory.  In New Hampshire, he is probably going to beat Guiliani again rather handidly, and I suspect he can beat Thompson too.  He'll probably come in fourth after McCain, Romney, and Huckabee with about 8-12% of the vote.  In the South he may get alot of racist support simply because he advocates states rights, despite the fact that he isn't racist, and despite the fact that he polls best with Blacks and Asians among the republican candidates.

The other factor is Bloomberg, who could run as a Centrist, and has billions to invest.  He has succeeded at everything he has tried, and unlike Guliani his positions and family life don't make him appalling for midwestern voters.  He is Jewish, but the popular vote in 2000 picked Lieberman (also Jewish) as Gore's Vice President, so I think he could get also be a significant factor if he runs, picking votes off from both sides.

My dream election would be

Ron Paul vs Huckabee vs. Bloomberg vs. Obama

(Libertarian) (Republican) (Centrist) (Democrat)

You'd have something like an 8%-35%-22%-45% popular split I think, with Bloomberg (he'd take some of the North East) and Paul (take one or two midwestern states) probably strong enough to horde ~40-60 electoral votes to force Obama to listen to some of their issues after taking the popular vote. 


Even were those candidates the ones to run, with the split as you say, it would not have much impact on the electoral college. 8% would gain Paul nothing electorally, and 22% for Bloomberg is slightly better than Ross Perot's 1992 vote, which again netted him not a single electoral vote. Moreover, if none of the 4 candidates get an electoral majority, there is no horse trading of electoral votes Since congress is liklely still going to be Democratic when they vote (I believe the vote comes after the new members are sworn in in January), Obama would be our next president, and he wouldn't have to listen to one idea from either Paul or Bloomberg. 



super_etecoon said:
Coca-Cola said:

Gore already said he is not running. Plus he is a celebrity now.

I don't think Hilary will run as a V.P. either though. Too much pride. ( I wouldn't blame her)

I know it's early but it would be interesting to see who Obama will choose as his running mate. (edswards?) He's gotta be a big name candidate.


 Correct me if I'm wrong, but the VP can come from anywhere.  Gore is not running for prez....but I'm sure he canbe chosen as a running mate.


The VP must be able to serve as president, and so must meet all the prerequisites as the president (35yearsold, born in USA, etc) and he cannot come from the same state as the presidential candidate.

Obama could pick Edwards, but I'm not sure what he gains, and for a guy looking to the future, it would look odd to see him pick yesterday's VP candidate. I can't see Obama picking Hillary for similar reasons. Safest bet would be the Governor of Ohio, which could move a lot of electoral votes into the Dem column.

I suspect Hillary would make a similar choice rather than go for Obama. She's too conscious of her image, and he could really overshadow her when on stage together.