Michael-5 said:

Still I'll go with reviews, IGN and GT give Forza4 a better grade for graphics, and it's a newer title, so standards are higher. :P

LOL I read it and it was pretty funny! if it was forza that got 10 we would never hear the end of how IGN is the most trusted review ever, but hey its a PS3 exclusive getting higher score so gotta whine I guess.

That's your argument?

Anyway I read the review and  and nowhere it says that Forza 4 is better graphically.

I need to qoute this. Sorry, I really can't help it. XD

I thought you don't trust IGN because they gave a lot 10 this gen.?  

2. A sudden drop over a foot deep is always catastrophic, the car nosedives when front wheels have the void under them but rear ones still lay on the ground, while taking off from a bump and landing after a flight as much high is a lot smoother.

3. Also in PC sims the car will bottom out and the suspensions are saved by a whisker by bump stops, but it must also be said that the fastest cars fast enough to take-off there, F1s and sport prototypes, don't anymore, as after 1967 aerodynamics started giving them up to several hundreds kg downforce, while the last F1s without ailerons, in 1967, were even lighter than currenf F1s, and a lot lighter than current touring cars, so the landing was less stressful on suspensions.

4. Anyway, even in the most realistic sims, for the necessary compromises we mentioned earlier, in this case particularly the dev times limits, we won't see the car behaviour simulated very well after it flipped over, and I don't expect the situation to improve very much even when HW limits get higher, devs won't dedicate very much time to correctly simulate a car rolling or sliding on its roof.

5. Oh yes. A nice compromise in the meantime, is the one chosen on GPL, they used parameters for aggressiveness and other driving features and abilities and they made them modifiable, setting them in the standard settings in a way that reflected the different driving styles and talents of real life pilots of 1967 season, this way, even  with the less evolved AI of the late 90's, the pilot bots didn't look all the same but very varied. Widely different characteristics of the cars furtherly improved the diversity effect (also on human drivers, not just AI ones, for example I suck with everything except the 1967 Brabham, and correctly the 1967 Lotus is beyond my skills and precision limits ), making the whole thing look even more natural, you won't see them following the same trajectories, running in single file.

But now I really must reinstall the darn Win XP on the desktop, it's totally messed up, I've not been sim driving for a while, playing only non driving games the notebook can run and, on the desktop, small Linux games... Driving again won't be a problem, but I won't ever be able to recover the thread in Morrowind, I had too many sidequests and guild careers open when I upgraded the PC and suspended playing it!   

Graphics scores are given out according to what a system is capable of, otherwise handheld games could never get a higher graphics score than 6.0. With this in mind, the Forza 4 graphics aren't better than GT5's, because a perfect 10 on the 360 equals an 8 on the PS3.

Michael-5 said:

IGN gave Forza 4 a 9.5/10 for Graphics and GT5 a 9/10. Considering GT5 is also a year older, and standards weren't as high them, that's not too small of a difference.

I said in the other thread to take IGN reviews with a grain of salt.

Besides, most other people here trust them, and it's good to point them out. I really only trust GTs and VGC nowdays.

DeathPool stop being a brat. IThose are unrelated arguements. UC3 getting 10/10 is a complaint againts the 20 point rating system, I never said UC3 didn't deserve a 98/100 from IGN.

Michael-5 said:

That's true, but I don't think that applies to 360 and PS3 games. They critisized Halo: Reaches graphics despite being one of the best on the 360, and in all honesty, playing Forza 4, not only did I think graphics like it were impossible on the 360, I thought they were impossible on PS3.

Most PS3/360 games are multiplatform, and they likely judge exclusive graphics in comparision to those games, which look on par with each other. Also the graphics difference between PS3 and 360 isn't major. I haven't played UC3 yet, but Gears of War 3 looks better then Uncharted 2, and pre UC3, wasn't Uncharted 2 the best looking game on PS3?

You really know nothing about review scores...

1. Luke Reilly worte the F4's review... Martin Robinson the GT5's review... two different person with different scores.

2. Reviews scores changed from plataform to plataform... Super Mario Galaxy 2 received 10 for graphics.

3. Need For Speed: Hot Pursuit Review receibed 9/10 for graphics too... GT5 is way better than it.