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Turn 10, the developer responsible for the Forza Motorsport series, has discussed the rivalry between their Xbox 360 exclusive racing franchise and Polyphony Digital’s Gran Turismo franchise.

Turn 10 chief Dan Greenawalt told Eurogamer about both of the franchise’s fierce rivalry:

It makes for great stories for people. It’s not what drives our team. Our team is driven towards that vision of car passion and car culture. And that’s what gets us to accelerate. Now, obviously in my job it’s important I play all the competition. I play everything. I play Grid, Need for Speed, Dirt, F1, everything. I play a lot of games in general. Part of it is just understanding what’s going on. But that’s not where our innovation, our ideas come from. That’s just knowing where the landscape is. You can’t navigate without knowing the landscape.

The other thing that’s interesting is, with any of these giant franchises – we have over 350 people working on our team across the globe – when you think about that many people over two years, that’s a lot of man hours. You can’t maintain incredible agility at that size. We’ve restructured our team over and over again to give autonomy and freedom to leaders within the team to innovate within different areas. They can innovate in Kinect. We can hire specialists. We can innovate in graphics and hire specialists. We can innovate in physics.

Greenawalt further explained that long term innovation is the only thing which will help them improve and be better than the competition:

But even so, even with the agility we get from that, we have to fire this artillery way in advance of trying to hit the hillside. So when a game comes out a year, six months, before we launch, we can’t do anything about that. There’s no reaction we can do at all. I can play it. I can appreciate what they do. We can’t react. Which is why our stress is on innovation long term. If we don’t innovate long term, we can’t accomplish it.

He concluded by saying that although some features might turn out to be the same in two or more different games in the same genre, that doesn’t always mean that one team copied from the other, and it can be infact a co-incidence:

Sometimes games come out with features at the same time. First-person shooters do and you go, oh, those guys copied that guy. I know that, just with the size of teams today, no they didn’t. They came up with the same idea around the same time about a year ago and one game beat the other one to market. The ability to copy other games is extremely limited, honestly.

http://www.gamersmint.com/gran-turismoforza-rivalry-discussed-by-turn-10



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Nsanity said:

Sometimes games come out with features at the same time. First-person shooters do and you go, oh, those guys copied that guy. I know that, just with the size of teams today, no they didn’t. They came up with the same idea around the same time about a year ago and one game beat the other one to market. The ability to copy other games is extremely limited, honestly.

 

http://www.gamersmint.com/gran-turismoforza-rivalry-discussed-by-turn-10

So what he's saying is that Uncharted copied Gears?  I'm just kidding.  Good read--almost a 180 from the stuff they were spewing when Forza 3 was poised to release at the same time as Gran Turismo 5, though.  I guess everyone has matured over the years except me.  Poop.



F4 launch approaches and Turn 10 now sends peace messages to Sony and PD. Were it for just those childish digs, it wouldn't even have been necessary, STFU for months and getting more serious and professional also in PR, like T 10 actually did, could have been enough. But MS and T 10 bundled F3 like hell right during GT5 launch, there's nothing now they can do to prevent Sony and PD from doing the same with GT5 during F4 launch, just hope they don't.



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Alby_da_Wolf said:
F4 launch approaches and Turn 10 now sends peace messages to Sony and PD. Were it for just those childish digs, it wouldn't even have been necessary, STFU for months and getting more serious and professional also in PR, like T 10 actually did, could have been enough. But MS and T 10 bundled F3 like hell right during GT5 launch, there's nothing now they can do to prevent Sony and PD from doing the same with GT5 during F4 launch, just hope they don't.

Bundling wouldn't effect the other games sales because they are on different consoles.



yo_john117 said:
Alby_da_Wolf said:
F4 launch approaches and Turn 10 now sends peace messages to Sony and PD. Were it for just those childish digs, it wouldn't even have been necessary, STFU for months and getting more serious and professional also in PR, like T 10 actually did, could have been enough. But MS and T 10 bundled F3 like hell right during GT5 launch, there's nothing now they can do to prevent Sony and PD from doing the same with GT5 during F4 launch, just hope they don't.

Bundling wouldn't effect the other games sales because they are on different consoles.

It can steal some spotlight in media and shelf space in stores. Are you sure it didn't anything during GT5 launch?



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Alby_da_Wolf said:
yo_john117 said:
Alby_da_Wolf said:
F4 launch approaches and Turn 10 now sends peace messages to Sony and PD. Were it for just those childish digs, it wouldn't even have been necessary, STFU for months and getting more serious and professional also in PR, like T 10 actually did, could have been enough. But MS and T 10 bundled F3 like hell right during GT5 launch, there's nothing now they can do to prevent Sony and PD from doing the same with GT5 during F4 launch, just hope they don't.

Bundling wouldn't effect the other games sales because they are on different consoles.

It can steal some spotlight in media and shelf space in stores. Are you sure it didn't anything during GT5 launch?

I am positive it didn't. There are probably only 10-20% of the population with both a 360 and a PS3 and between them I bet the racing fans are a very small amount.



He doesn't actually talk about GT, nor does he mention a rivalry; is there even one?



So the article presents as Turn 10 talking about a rivalry between Forza and GT. But not once does he mention GT or PD. So either he wasn't talking about rivalry with GT/PD specifically (but rivalry in the racing genre in general) or GT/PD to Turn 10 is like saying Voldemort at Hogwarts. They who shall not be named.

I much prefer to see developers talking positively about their product rather than dissing someone else's. You know how the saying goes...



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Was there really a rivalery? I remember Turn 10 getting in a Tiz but I don't remember anything from PD's side.



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Ajescent said:
Was there really a rivalery? I remember Turn 10 getting in a Tiz but I don't remember anything from PD's side.

No there was never really a rivalery.