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Forums - Sports - The NFL Thread 2011: New York Giants Win Super Bowl XLVI

well that was great all round wasn't it,unless you are a new england fan who in truth i'd support being from old england, i don't really understand the hate for these 2 teams but it was manning to manningham with the play again in the end so good job those two, NYG really held themselves together when the pressure was on and classic NFL that the guy scoring the winning touchdown didn't want to score it(but he did really)

It was pretty tense stuff,i love how american football is all about the clock,you can have just seconds left but still alot of stuff going on,bradys interception was kind of unhelpful,great 96yd scoring drive but he choked a bit and in the end manning got the job done,new england could have had it with that last play,exciting stuff

we had mike carlson and danny amendola from st louis rams as our pundits on the bbc and madonna was great fun wasn't she i don't understand all the negativity from people how they even get those half time shows on is amazing in itself and who doesn't enjoy like a prayer with a huge choir

anyway i enjoyed it and look forward to next season any predictions for the super bowl winners 2013 ?



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It was all the interception in the last 4 minutes. Pats up by two with the ball, 1st and ten, four minutes to go.
-> Guys open all around him, long bomb to interception.



RolStoppable said:

If you watch football each and every week, you are poised to see catches where the receiver barely gets the tips of his toes in the field or not. Manningham's catch was a clear one, meaning there's no question whatsoever whether it was a catch or not. He jumped in the air, caught the ball and landed with both feet clearly inside the field before he was pushed out and he maintained possession while going to the ground.

Eli Manning played well under pressure. His passing stats on third downs prove it. Overall he had also a high completion rate and no interceptions and no fumbles. Downplaying such a QB performance is nuts.

The bitterness is because if the Patriots had won the game, you most certainly wouldn't have come into this thread to demand a best of three series in the playoffs.

I was mainly looking at his foot and it was right about to lift when it looked like he finally had control of the ball.  I know there are closer plays than that but it was pretty damn close.  I'd also like to mention that wide receivers get to wear pretty nifty gloves that basically act like super glue now.  Being a receiver before these pretty cheap gloves took a little more talent.  He had good foot and ball control in the that play I'll give him that.

Reason why downplaying Eli... I didn't even know who they gave MVP to consider I turned the game off right away.  I knew of course they would give it to him.  I suppose you kind of have to when no one else stood out.  I am just saying the game didn't look that exciting to me because the only stars you really had there was Brady and Eli.  There was no bad ass receiver.  Sure there were very good ones (Welker having to let me down a little with that major drop in the end) but no super star that could take the game over.  You didn't have Walter Payton running over guys but the Giants backs did have a few decent plays but nothing dominating.  Basically it was a lackluster game to me because I've seen better.

Yea, I have bitterness when I see a team win a championship that they were pretty much given to by the mistakes of the other team.  The Pats pretty much gave the Giants the Super Bowl.



RolStoppable said:
theprof00 said:
It was all the interception in the last 4 minutes. Pats up by two with the ball, 1st and ten, four minutes to go.
-> Guys open all around him, long bomb to interception.

There's no time to look everywhere when under pressure (and Brady barely escaped a sack), so the best case scenario for this play would have been Brady throwing the ball away for an incomplete pass. This would have made it a long fourth down and therefore a punt, so in either case the Giants would have gotten the ball deep into their own half.

It's too easy to blame it all on the interception. The offensive line of the Pats was no good on that play.

1. He can simply run, and get 5 yards. At 4 minutes to go with the ball, you run the clock. It's first down, you're in a good spot. You do some running plays. Play safe.

It was first down rol.

Watch the replay, there were guys literally all around him



RolStoppable said:
theprof00 said:

1. He can simply run, and get 5 yards. At 4 minutes to go with the ball, you run the clock. It's first down, you're in a good spot. You do some running plays. Play safe.

It was first down rol.

You are right, it was first down. But looking it up also revealed that the interception happened 14 minutes before the end of the game.

Why again do I still trust you to make true statements?

Huh, strange that I thought this happened at 4 minutes.

Doesn't really matter though. You don't throw a bomb on ast and ten. There is no excuse. Really bad call to do that.

Although it doesn't help that in the last 5 plays by the Patriots, 4 were incomplete passes.



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yeah i didn't think that interception happened with 4 mins left i thought it was at the beginning of the quarter

and while in that last drive they messed up those two catches,it must pretty hard to get everything right when you have 50secs to get 85yd to win the super bowl,i bet it doesn't happen very often



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Am I the only one who thought it was a wise decision to actually score a touchdown in the last min of the 4th quarter? I know the smart decision would have been for Bradshaw to take a knee at the one and run out the clock, but after the botched kick that happen to a ravens(now with x10000 more pressure) I wouldn't take my chances, and Tynes kicks were very close to missing, if he were 5-7 yards deeper he might've missed the 1st(and maybe the 2nd) but I would have rather made the touchdown and force Tom Brady to make a touchdown to win with 57 sec left with one time out.

I know many people say the Giants got lucky with those fumbles(which they did...specially with the first one on Cruuuuuuuuuuz! :p) but they were some questionable non-calls that the refs didn't call on the pats specailly that not-pass interference on Cruz(or was it Nicks) when clearly the guy defending him latched onto his shoulder before the ball was caught, and that holding call on Boothe was a joke(imo) it looked like Boother and Wilfork were tied up and when Boothe was moving Wilfork to the right he just went for the ride



sethnintendo said:
RolStoppable said:

If you watch football each and every week, you are poised to see catches where the receiver barely gets the tips of his toes in the field or not. Manningham's catch was a clear one, meaning there's no question whatsoever whether it was a catch or not. He jumped in the air, caught the ball and landed with both feet clearly inside the field before he was pushed out and he maintained possession while going to the ground.

Eli Manning played well under pressure. His passing stats on third downs prove it. Overall he had also a high completion rate and no interceptions and no fumbles. Downplaying such a QB performance is nuts.

The bitterness is because if the Patriots had won the game, you most certainly wouldn't have come into this thread to demand a best of three series in the playoffs.

I was mainly looking at his foot and it was right about to lift when it looked like he finally had control of the ball.  I know there are closer plays than that but it was pretty damn close.  I'd also like to mention that wide receivers get to wear pretty nifty gloves that basically act like super glue now.  Being a receiver before these pretty cheap gloves took a little more talent.  He had good foot and ball control in the that play I'll give him that.

Reason why downplaying Eli... I didn't even know who they gave MVP to consider I turned the game off right away.  I knew of course they would give it to him.  I suppose you kind of have to when no one else stood out.  I am just saying the game didn't look that exciting to me because the only stars you really had there was Brady and Eli.  There was no bad ass receiver.  Sure there were very good ones (Welker having to let me down a little with that major drop in the end) but no super star that could take the game over.  You didn't have Walter Payton running over guys but the Giants backs did have a few decent plays but nothing dominating.  Basically it was a lackluster game to me because I've seen better.

Yea, I have bitterness when I see a team win a championship that they were pretty much given to by the mistakes of the other team.  The Pats pretty much gave the Giants the Super Bowl.

Brady threw that pass behind Welker when the safety was not that close, if he doesn't throw the pass behind Welker, then he makes that catch. 

Eli's pass was perfect and was similar to the pass he threw to Manningham earlier, only difference is Manningham didn't run out of bounds this time. Eli made a perfect throw it had nothing to do with look, he looked the safety off and threw it into double coverage like the bad mother____ he is, and that's why he is the superbowl champ and mvp.

To bad Welker didn't have those super glue gloves huh?

Such a wonderful time, Brady can go into hiding until next season like the rest of the Pats fan base, they all got Eli'd.....again.

Its just so funny, when Welker drops a pass that could have seen the Pats win it...the Patriots are giving the game away......but when Lee Evans of the Ravens drops that TD pass and Cundiff misses that FG from 30 yds, the Pats outplayed the Ravens and are the better team? Take your medicine Pats fan, its hard to win games when the other team is not giving it to you or your spying on the sidelines? Drink up....



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I feel bad for welker, a majority of people are solely blaming him for losing the game,(though both hernandez and branch also dropped passes) I'm surprised Brady didn't step up and say it was partially his fault as he threw it to early and at the wrong sholder of welker



the Patriots sort of floped however you cannot blame the QB.

Manning and Brady played really well, both were super solid.

However after the Giants scored, the patriots had a golden chance and messed up with a sack and two incompletes.