still no ps3, so 360 ^^

75% of 360 sales being transfered over to PS3 if the game were PS3 exclusive makes no sense! Most FF owners on 360 probably don't have a PS3 (if they did, they would buy it on PS3). What do you base this ridiculously high estimate from?

For Mass Effect, Mass Effect 3 pre-orders are 5 times higher on 360 the PS3. http://www.vgchartz.com/article/87800/americas-preorders-chart-3-september-2011-dead-island/. So despite the year delay between ME2 and the same release for ME3, both games have the same attach rate on PS3, which is about 20%. This supports my claim that most gamers don't own multiple consoles.

As for owning both consoles and getting FFXIII on 360, the CG cinematics are a lot better on PS3 then 360. The 360 version is a port, not a game built from scratch for the 360, and it shows. Any real FF fan would get in on PS3, only a small audience would prefer to get it on 360 over PS3 (me included) because of controller, achievements, and encouraging JRPG's to be MP or western localized. Trust me, I'm one of the few people who bought FFXIII on 360 despite owning a PS3 at the time as well. I'm a minority.

a) I agree there are people like that, and FFXIII would have sold systems as an exclusive, but the number of current 360 owners who would buy a second console for this game would be quite minimal. If anything it would encourage new gamers to get a PS3 over a 360, but even then, small numbers. Not enough to make up for the volume of 360 owners who are interested in FFXIII, but not willing to get a PS3 for it.

b) For the same reason FFXIII saw strong sales on 360. Because of great JRPG exclusives on 360 like Tales of Vesperia, Star Ocean (At the time), Lost Odyssey, etc, JRPG fans already had a 360, and got FFXIII for that console. There is no support that these people would buy a second HD console for 1 JRPG.

Like I said FFXIII being exclusive would likely make a bigger impact on new console buyers, not current 360 owners. So FFXIII going exclusive might have added 100k sales to PS3 because of new console buyers, but no more then that. People aren't so rich that they can buy two or three consoles.

I don't think your estimate of 75% is reasonable at all. You assume that at least half of current 360 owners would go and buy a PS3 as a secondary console for FFXIII. That would mean that nearly 1 million (or 2% now, 3/4% back then) of 360 owners would buy a PS3 as a secondary console for Final Fantasy.

Common, that's basically more sales then any other JRPG, and this 1 million sales would come from an audience outside of Japan, the biggest region for JRPG sales.

This number just makes no sense, I don't even think 1 million PS3 owners bought a 360 as a secondary console for Halo.

At very best 100k 360 owners would have bought a PS3 as a secondary console for FFXIII. Another 100k sales would be added for new console buyers, and maybe 200k more sales for the game being an exclusive. That's 400k sales, just under FFXIII.

I mean Mass Effect 3 will probably sell better or just as good as ME2 justo n the 360 alone. ME went multiplatform, and I don;t think it will hurt 360 ME sales one bit. I hardly think FFXIII going MP hurt PS3 sales significantly. 20% boost in Americas and EMEAA is what I give it, and I think that's reasonable.

I mean ifG Gears of War went MP, do you think the 360 version of the game would suffer? Not by much, althought the game wouldn't sell that well on PS3 either. I don't think FF is some rare exception.

1 million, or 1.4 million (75%) is a huge boost to PS3 sales, this is more then any other JRPG this gen. You are giving the franchise too much credit. Most people buy it for the name, and don't care if it's exclusive or not. So selling on the 360 could only gain sales. This is why XIII-2 is a single disk game on 360, SE knows that making the game optimized for 360 AND PS3 will boost sales.

Hardware sales jump when any FF releases, but most of that boost is in Japan. You don't see as much of a boost in Americas and EMEAA. Exclusive or not, the PS3 still saw a boost in hardware, and I don't see any reason to think that the extra boost the PS3 version could have gotten would be enough to offset anymore then 20% of the boost the 360 got. Remember the game is still exclusive in Japan, and even in Japan, FFXIII sales are not particularly high for the franchise.

You're barking under the wrong tree. I never said that FFXIII would have sold 1M PS3s if exclusive. I talked of something about a few hundred thousands, which by itself is about 15% of the 360 sales. The remaining 60something% (around 950K sales in the west) would basically come from the overlap, ie owners of both consoles.

As you yourself reminded, MS seemed to have a definite strategy for JRPGs once upon a time (lost odyssey, tales of vesperia etc.), leading - I think - to a substantial niche adoption from JRPG fans who wanted to encourage this policy for the west. Look at Lost Odyssey's sales outside japan: about 800K.

Just for fun, you might start a poll on the forums to find people who bought FFXIII on the 360 to find out if they also own a PS3 or what they would have done in case of exclusivity. These forums are demographically extremely different from mainstream, but maybe not that different from the niche JRPGs audience.

but you're making grand assumptions: "Oh, he is saying PS3 is better, he must be a troll and hate the 360!" 

Uh, no...I own all the systems this gen, and I love them all for different reasons.  Yes, the PS3 is my favorite and gets the most play time, but that doesn't mean I hate the others.  I just don't feel the need to stop and explain this after every sentence just so that people don't label me a troll/fanboy.  In FFvsXIII, PS3 is the superior console, there's little more to it than that.  PLUS, I happen to support sony more since for me (and most others), the final fantasy series (at least the primary titles) has always been PS3, so a lot of it has to do with tradition.  (again, yes I know they used to be on Nintendo, but that was a LONG time ago, before most modern gamers were gaming.)  

so seriously, stop looking for things to whine and complain about, it makes you look bad. 

If Versus goes multiplat I'm not buying it at all. Not because I have something against the 360 or because they'll cut a bit of content on both versions, simply because it won't be a good game. Versus and the FF zero for psp are just about the only 2 left that give me any hope for the series. Versus is supposed to be being made for ps3 from the ground up taking advantage of everything it has, if they are even able to port it on short notice that proves they lied about it and it will likely be similar quality to FFXIII (which they also lied about).

All that said I don't think it will get ported because it is being made by the KH team which as of yet has not let me down so I think they will do a good job and take advantage of blu ray and the ps3s Cell and make a good game. But I'm still not giving it the benefit of the doubt, I'll have to wait for reviews.

Why did you even post if you had no intentions of buying the 360 verison? You just basically admited  you only care about the PS3, and would not buy the game at all if it went to the 360.

The topic was: Would you buy FF Versus XIII on the 360, not the PS3.

I answered it, I wouldn't buy it on the 360, if it came out on the 360 before launch I wouldn't even buy it at all.

I like how your mind works.

Sorry, you cannot have it.

A little bit of internet digging works wonders.

Sony owned 18.6% of Square (they were approached by Square for the Capital investment too)

After the Merger, Sony ownes 8.5% of SE (non voting stock).