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Michael-5 said:

4.7 million on the PS3 is less then every single main series Final Fantasy in the last 15 years, excluding the lackluster online MMO FFXI and FF XIV. That's even less then FFX-2. The extra 1.8 million sales the 360 version generated at least puts FFXIII sales above 3 other mainstream FF games.

With PS3/360 hardware sales nearly split, SE is loosing a lot of $$$ making any game exclusive. This isn't like the PS2, PS1 or even SNES and NES. Sales aren't a landslide towards one manufacterer. 3rd party exclusives make little sense this gen.

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I don't think it's that clearly cut.

Let's take FFXIII: 4.7M on PS3, 1.8M on X360.

Now let's make the counterfactual hypothesis that it had remained a PS3 exclusive, then the sales wouldn't have been these. FF might well be the most successful JRPG franchise over here but it's still an entrenched niche product: I expect it mainly to sell to people who are in FF or JRPGs already.

So, how many of those western JRPGs and FF fans would be owners of an X360 only? If the X360 version didn't exist I expect most of these 1.8M sales would simply have been PS3 ones. Let's say a 75% factor, then the PS3 version alone would have sold (4.7+1.35)=6.05M. That's a 450K sales loss compared to actual ones, or about 8%. Does that 8% pay for multiplatform development (usually quantified in at least 10% increase in costs for tools and porting)?

Probably not, but on the other hand Squeenix probably had other goals. Maybe they thought that the X360 version would have been an easier way to expand into the western market. That surely didn't work out very well, and certainly they lost some cred in the most rabid fanboish audience... Maybe they had different projections, or maybe they were interested in better business opportunities with MS for their future projects - FFXIII on the X360 might not have been a great deal for Sq.x, but it certainly was worth a great deal for MS, image-wise.

As I said, not that clearly cut.



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Naww, I'll stick to playing it on its superior console: PS3. We all know it's being developed for PS3, and if it DOES go to 360, then it'll be a port, likely have multiple discs (not like I care, loved FFVII-FFIX), and not perform as well.

I play lots of games on my 360, but Final Fantasy is not one of them.



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Wow amazing how some sony fanboys get so offended when someone thinks that versus 13 is coming to 360. Do you think Square gives two cents about Sony or MS they want money nothing more nothing less. If it does come to 360 which is likely what are you going to do about it? Cry like a big baby? Nothing more annoying than these type of people.



EGG_OF_D00m said:
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VGKing said:
Last time I checked Nomura said the game is being developed exclusively on the PS3.
There is no 360 version. Sorry I guess you'll have to buy a PS3 this time.

 

Maybe Nomura is developing the ps3 version which doesnt count out square giving it to one of its other developers to port it for 360.....

I dont want to get your heart broken later if it turn out true........juss saying


no because every trailer releases has said exclusive for playstation 3..


lol are you serious they did the same thing with final fantasy 13 it always said only on PS3 then when it was announced at MS press conference on E3 it said Xbox 360 and PS3 so that argument is irrelevant.



There are several reasons why Versus will remain exclusive (1) Nomura wants it exclusive. He is not the President but he has much say. 2) The engine is built for the PS3 and a lot of work would be necessary to be usuable on the 360 3) SE Owes Sony due to Sony bailing them out years ago. Sony has said that they want this game 4) The posting asked for PS3 experience but can settle for 360 experience. This is not uncommon due to HD experience being interchangeable). There are many more.

Also, the PS3 FF13 did suffer in quality; if you compare the Advant Children demo to the final product you will know this.



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GuiltySpartan77 said:
Wow amazing how some sony fanboys get so offended when someone thinks that versus 13 is coming to 360. Do you think Square gives two cents about Sony or MS they want money nothing more nothing less. If it does come to 360 which is likely what are you going to do about it? Cry like a big baby? Nothing more annoying than these type of people.

Sony owns 10% of SE so they do care

SE loves M$ throwing money at them so they do care as well



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deskpro2k3 said:

Theoretically speaking if it does turn on multy. Why would you get it on 360 if you know it'll be superior on PS3? it is fully optimized and build to run on PS3 first. If anything it will be a 360 port. I want to know what is your logic for that.


That so called superiorority on the PS3 version..... way IC it, all FF13 PS3 had going for it was less discs and slightly better resolution. All things that don`t mean a whole lot for most gamers(not constantly in forums). As far as actual game content? FF13 was the same on both X360 & PS3. That is what really matters. 

As for my reason for getting FF13 on X360.... it`s simple, I prefer to play on X360 if I can due to the controller, achievements, community etc. PS3/Wii are solely used for exclusive games or in a rare case the version on X360 is nigh unplayable.



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LordMatrix said:
deskpro2k3 said:

Theoretically speaking if it does turn on multy. Why would you get it on 360 if you know it'll be superior on PS3? it is fully optimized and build to run on PS3 first. If anything it will be a 360 port. I want to know what is your logic for that.


That so called superiorority on the PS3 version..... way IC it, all FF13 PS3 had going for it was less discs and slightly better resolution. All things that don`t mean a whole lot for most gamers(not constantly in forums). As far as actual game content? FF13 was the same on both X360 & PS3. That is what really matters. 

As for my reason for getting FF13 on X360.... it`s simple, I prefer to play on X360 if I can due to the controller, achievements, community etc. PS3/Wii are solely used for exclusive games or in a rare case the version on X360 is nigh unplayable.

so because you prefer to play the xbox you think the game should come over even though there isn't even any proof at all fine then... i prefer the ps3 can i have gears plzzz



Runa216 said:
Naww, I'll stick to playing it on its superior console: PS3. We all know it's being developed for PS3, and if it DOES go to 360, then it'll be a port, likely have multiple discs (not like I care, loved FFVII-FFIX), and not perform as well.

I play lots of games on my 360, but Final Fantasy is not one of them.


What`s wrong with ports? Most people are not really that bothered by multiple discs. FF13 performs just fine on X360.

PS: Why not try saying I prefer the PS3 for this game because.... instead of saying "Naww, I'll stick to playing it on its superior console: PS3". That right there made your post troll worthy and whether the rest of your post was meant to just be friendly discussion or not that first sentence really was not needed.



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LordMatrix said:
Runa216 said:
Naww, I'll stick to playing it on its superior console: PS3. We all know it's being developed for PS3, and if it DOES go to 360, then it'll be a port, likely have multiple discs (not like I care, loved FFVII-FFIX), and not perform as well.

I play lots of games on my 360, but Final Fantasy is not one of them.


What`s wrong with ports? Most people are not really that bothered by multiple discs. FF13 performs just fine on X360.

PS: Why not try saying I prefer the PS3 for this game because.... instead of saying "Naww, I'll stick to playing it on its superior console: PS3". That right there made your post troll worthy and whether the rest of your post was meant to just be friendly discussion or not that first sentence really was not needed.

how is it trolling if it's the truth i never knew saying a game was surperior on a console even though it is was troll worthy.