If the Wii taugh something is how wonderful are profits.

I think they would have enjoyed the massive profits over a larger period of time.  It look like the loser right now.

Everyone loves to have profits for the longest time. Due to big mistakes done by them, it's not longer posible, so they should move on. Even when they do a "sprint", their profits are bigger than the ones still in the "marathon". Wii reached its final line, now is time for WiiU. Its not that Wii can't handle a marathon, but how it reached the final before its competitors.

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I'm sorry Seece but by that logic WM+ is a new console and so is Move. Since new consumers are able to get bundles with both peripherals. I hope you aren't suggesting that every new peripheral that is bundled with hardware is a new console. If we followed that logic then we've been through like at least two generations this generation. In fact PS3 has been through three as they replaced the original controller early in its life cycle.

I don't know anything, lol that's pretty high and mighty of you. Yes I am well aware that Kinect will sell more units this winter, but as you said you consider Wii dead and it sells a heck of alot of units every Christmas. The momentum is gone, it doesn't sell steadily anymore. A few million units this winter will not make Kinect a success. Also look at the software Microsoft has for Kinect, what big sellers are present? Dance Central 2?

Umm Wii pushed into third place? Maybe on a weekly or monthly sales basis but not in over all market share. Infact not likely in software marketshare either despite the lack of many games. I was right up until last year Nintendo regularily beat the competitors consoles I never said they were today.

Also having hardly any software doesn't keep you from calling Kinect a success. More Wii games were released this year then Kinect titles. According to IGN 17 Kinect games came out in 2011 while Wii has a shit load more. So by software support Wii is doing far better then Kinect but I thought that Wii was dead?

Umm I think Nintendo making a shit load of profit makes Wii successful. The only reason Nintendo had an operating loss was the hit they took with 3DS. I don't think Nintendo minds falling to third place in the weekly charts, as long as Wii is profitable they are probably more worried about WiiU and 3DS.

Also I do support your idea that companies value market share more then profits in the short term. However Nintendo up until Wii made a shit loads of profit in fact it was more then its competitors made off their systems and games. Only thing is with DS and Wii Nintendo saw profits soar higher then they have ever been. Long story short Nintendo doesn't want to go back to GCN level profits, they want to regain their Wii/DS profit levels. In order to do those numbers they need market share, without market share they loose software support. Without software support they loose software revenue and in turn more hardware sales fall.

However in the long term the only reason companies care about market share is for profits. If they dominate in market share but don't break even the console is considered a failure.

You're making it sound like the Wii sold well for a very short time which is not the case. All 3 consoles are running a marathon, the Wii just happened to start with a sprint.

I just don't get your seemingly blind devotion to this Kinect add-on.  Yes, I said add-on.  That's because that is what it is.  And it can't be considered anything more until MS bundles it with EVERY 360 sold.  It definitely can't be considered a console when in America (360 and Kinect's biggest market) VGC shows that Kinect Adventures/Kinect sold only 15,000 units, while the 360 itself sold 75,000 units.  That means that ~ 60,000 of the people who bought 360 last week had no interest in picking up the Kinect with it. 

As far as this holiday goes, it seems you think Kinect will repeat, or at least come close to repeating, its success from last year.  That is just not going to happen.  Kinect had a huge help from a large campaign and the fact that it was the new IT electronic device that the public, mostly Americans, ate up.  This holiday, it will have none of those things going for it.  Sure, they'll adverstise it, but nothing like that initial push.  And it definitely isn't new.  The 3DS will most likely take the crown of the new IT thing to buy the kiddies this year.  Thing only thing that will help push Kinect to be close to last year's success is a big price drop for it.  Somewhere around $80, plus a $50 cut for the 360 itself.

No, that was the PS3.

I don't see why not, but it'd be close.

Don't see it beating the awesomeness of the DS or Wii though in their respective catergories.

I guess so.

I meant it in a negative way about the Wii. As in it kinda fell off a lot as opposed to the other two. So I'm agreeing