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Forums - Microsoft - Jim Sterling on Cliffy B's Reaction to GoW3 Reviews - Vulgar, Spoiled and Greedy

Icyedge on 19 September 2011
slowmo said:
It's easy to call the developers whiners but lets put this in perspective, Uncharted 2 wasn't a 96% average game, Mass Effect 2 shouldn't be either imo. The problem is reviewers rated games too highly early in the generation and are now adjusting to a lower standard but this doesn't change historic reviews which were frankly overrated. GTA IV is a classic example of a game that the reviewers were just plain wrong, 98% average, are you kidding me!!!

I think CliffyB is entitled to bitch that is game is suffering critically for mistakes reviewers made to be perfectly honest. Reviewers have quite literally lost their consistancy and thats why the scores mean even less than ever. He might be a arrogant so and so but that still doesn't mean he shouldn't be allowed to have an opinion. I guess reviewers would love it if they could write any crap they like and hide behind journallism without ever been called out for their conduct.

If you want to see more objective reviews look at the PC game scores, there's too many no name talentless journalists in the console sector imo.

Thats the first point I agree with in regard to defending CliffyB attitude. Very good point indeed.

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Vertigo-X on 19 September 2011
maverick40 said:
Machina said:

To give Cliffy some credit, he's voicing his honest opinion on the matter. I imagine the vast majority of game developers react and feel the exact same way when it comes to their own games but keep it to themselves.

he is whining about one reviewer giving his game an 8/10. Why should i give him some credit? His game is already hailed as an excellent one as it currently stands at an 91. The sheer arrogance from cliffy B is disgracefull. David jaffe is another guy that can't shut up. Most of ye clearly do not understand how review scores should be graded. Jim reviews games on a proper 10 point scale, unlike 90% of the "reviewers" out there. An 8/10 in the proper scales is classed as an excellent game but not a perfect one which gears 3 isnt.  

Cliffy B's opinion does sound greedy and ungratefull.

No, he's "whining" because this reviewer (probably, I haven't actually checked) gave Gears 2 a higher score than 3. Cliffy believes 3 is a better game in every way. He is NOT bitching about simply getting an 8.



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maverick40 on 20 September 2011
Vertigo-X said:
maverick40 said:
Machina said:

To give Cliffy some credit, he's voicing his honest opinion on the matter. I imagine the vast majority of game developers react and feel the exact same way when it comes to their own games but keep it to themselves.

he is whining about one reviewer giving his game an 8/10. Why should i give him some credit? His game is already hailed as an excellent one as it currently stands at an 91. The sheer arrogance from cliffy B is disgracefull. David jaffe is another guy that can't shut up. Most of ye clearly do not understand how review scores should be graded. Jim reviews games on a proper 10 point scale, unlike 90% of the "reviewers" out there. An 8/10 in the proper scales is classed as an excellent game but not a perfect one which gears 3 isnt.  

Cliffy B's opinion does sound greedy and ungratefull.

No, he's "whining" because this reviewer (probably, I haven't actually checked) gave Gears 2 a higher score than 3. Cliffy believes 3 is a better game in every way. He is NOT bitching about simply getting an 8.

Different reviewer from gears of war 2, different opinion of game.



Machiavellian on 20 September 2011

Did any of you even read the Eurogamer review. How can you even form an opinion of worth if you did not take the time to read the point in question???



TruckOSaurus on 21 September 2011
Machiavellian said:
Did any of you even read the Eurogamer review. How can you even form an opinion of worth if you did not take the time to read the point in question???

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