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Forums - Sony Discussion - *UPDATE* (See it in action)Play PS3 games through your Vita, and use the Vita as a PS3 controller. KIllzone 3 and LBP 2 OMG!!!!!!

Solid-Stark on 15 September 2011

Vita just got even better.



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teigaga on 15 September 2011
Xenostar said:
teigaga said:
Mordred11 said:
Slimebeast said:
Why would I want to play a PS3 game on a tiny screen and lower image quality?

Maybe because you could do it anywhere?


Im pretty sure its confined to the house, its like the wii U. Your ps3 has to be on and your Vita has to be within resonable proximity of the system. It will great for when the Tv is unavailable, when you want to use headphones or for some games which dont really need a massive screen (pSN titles).

In terms of using the Vita as a control, i really think sony should push it. All 1st party titles going foward should have this feature. there are already a number of games which i think it will be extremely usefull for and at the top of the list is MAss Effect 3, skyrim and final fantasy XIII-2. I think maybe they should sell a cheap attachement which provides second trigger buttons because the touch panel isnt much of a substitute.


Well youd be wrong, even the PSP let me remote play PS1 games from work, so no reason at all the Vita wouldnt work over the internet as well, especially with its wireless N connection. 

I hope Nintendo change there minds and make Wii U work outside the house as well,  they dont want to be making regretable design deceisions like they have with the 3DS

Is there not a big difference? Ps1 games are not that big, less data to encode so its possible to stream it over a decent network with power of your ps3, I highly doubt the ps3 can handle streaming uncharted 2 across to the vIta at a large distance without some dramatic lag. but i'm not an expert, by all means i hope what your saying is true but im skeptical.



ChristianTheAtheist on 15 September 2011

It should work better on LAN, doesn't it?



gamelover2000 on 15 September 2011

The 3G network is more then enough to actually stream the image/sound etc. And here in Holland we even have wifi on public transport (Holland has one of the highest internet connections/ square kilometer ratio in the world.



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Xenostar on 15 September 2011
teigaga said:
Xenostar said:
teigaga said:
Mordred11 said:
Slimebeast said:
Why would I want to play a PS3 game on a tiny screen and lower image quality?

Maybe because you could do it anywhere?


Im pretty sure its confined to the house, its like the wii U. Your ps3 has to be on and your Vita has to be within resonable proximity of the system. It will great for when the Tv is unavailable, when you want to use headphones or for some games which dont really need a massive screen (pSN titles).

In terms of using the Vita as a control, i really think sony should push it. All 1st party titles going foward should have this feature. there are already a number of games which i think it will be extremely usefull for and at the top of the list is MAss Effect 3, skyrim and final fantasy XIII-2. I think maybe they should sell a cheap attachement which provides second trigger buttons because the touch panel isnt much of a substitute.


Well youd be wrong, even the PSP let me remote play PS1 games from work, so no reason at all the Vita wouldnt work over the internet as well, especially with its wireless N connection. 

I hope Nintendo change there minds and make Wii U work outside the house as well,  they dont want to be making regretable design deceisions like they have with the 3DS

Is there not a big difference? Ps1 games are not that big, less data to encode so its possible to stream it over a decent network with power of your ps3, I highly doubt the ps3 can handle streaming uncharted 2 across to the vIta at a large distance without some dramatic lag. but i'm not an expert, by all means i hope what your saying is true but im skeptical.

There is no differnce whatsoever, as its just sending an image and sound content processing is all done on the PS3, obviously ps3 games are higher resolution, but games marked to work for remoteplay downscale the image before they send it across the internet. Now previously developers had to mark there games as remoteplay ready, this is because the psp has limited controls compared to a dualshock pad and controls might need to be remapped in remote play, this wont be a problem for Vita, but there is also a slight processing overhead PS3 side to do remoteplay so games maxing out PS3 could see slow down. 

I very much doubt Sony will start letting old games work on remoteplay without the developers/publishers say so, but hopefully they will push for developers to make new games marked as compatible, now that bandwidth is less of an issue with better wireless on Vita and there is no problem for control mapping at all. 



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sergiodaly on 15 September 2011

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sergiodaly on 15 September 2011
sergiodaly said:
even if just works i wlan i am happy about it... never had a handheld in my life but this could be the thing that changes that for me...

for ps3 to stream a good quality video and audio to PSV over the internet it would need at least 1Mb/s upload speed and not every body has that... i know i have (2Mb/s actually, but i have a optic fiber connection witch is yet not very common, i believe) so over the internet for me might work... but to 3G connection on the move is harder because 3G connection does get a lot more lag and a speed drop with the increase of the target movement (example: bus, train or car ride) and lag is a major thing here... but stream to other land connection is very possible and doable!





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Icyedge on 15 September 2011
kowenicki said:
PullusPardus said:
kowenicki said:
Mordred11 said:
Slimebeast said:
Why would I want to play a PS3 game on a tiny screen and lower image quality?

Maybe because you could do it anywhere?

You think?

I doubt that.  On the bus via 3G... no chance.

Why not?

So you think an upload from your PS3 via your wifi at home accessed via the internet through 3G on yourt PSVita will work on the bus?

 


For this one time ; ), im with kowenicki. Im pretty sure this streaming function will be available only when the Vita and PS3 are connected through wi-fi together.



Jay520 on 15 September 2011

Jay520 throws his TV in the dumpster



Hynad on 15 September 2011
kowenicki said:
arcane_chaos said:
kowenicki said:
arcane_chaos said:
can this also be done with PS2 games? as I own a 60 gb PS3


doubtful.. even ps3 games will need a patch.


awww fiddlesticks..thanks though...


this is a good article about it...

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-08-02-sony-use-vita-as-a-ps3-controller

You're mistaken.  Remote play won't require patches for every games.  Just like you didn't need any to play PSX games on the fly with your PSP through the PS3's remote play feature. 

The interview mentioned that the devs could incorporate Vita support for their games, but that's if they want to incorporate Vita control and display input (for example, having your status screen appear on the Vita's screen instead of on your TV in a game like White Knight Chronicles II), which is unrelated to the Remote Play feature.