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Should there be a limit on children for those that can't support their own kids?

Yes 34 61.82%
 
No 14 25.45%
 
See Results 7 12.73%
 
Total:55

3 children maximum



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Yup, after a certain date (like 2015, give em enough time) make it so every 2nd and onwards child isn't supported. And give them food, gas, electric tokens (and some money of course)



 

cAPSLOCK said:

Had a big wall of text wrote up, deleted it.

I'll just leave this here and go. I'll just say it's well worth the watch, and the guy is a good speaker so it makes it easy to sit through.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y2mjvFNOwmc

It'll also be a fun excercise to find out who the racists are on this forum.


I heard up to 10:00, and he didn't mentioned asians.

Why is that?



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I concur



100% Yes because the less educated have the most kids and are more likely to not encourage an environment that will create individuals interested in academics and engineering new ideas and innovations. I also think that the less intelligent are more likely to abuse the system by having more kids to gain more welfare benefits while still neglecting their numerous offspring. Sometimes it takes the smartest individuals to control those who do not look at the world beyond concrete ideas and selfish motivations.



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Well then we better start making sure all the politicians ,business men/women and all the other 's who have there snouts in the trough have there ability to have children curtailed , many great leaders, industrialist's, academics have come from those type of family's.



There should be a child limit for everybody. 2 Max.



if you can't support your kids and you are to dumb to realize it you shouldn't get more money from tax payers



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I say no. But only because that would be a HUGE intrusion by the government and I want our government to becomes smaller and less intrusive, not more so. I think the better solution would to limit the benefits to 2 children. After that, the parents are on their own.

To the Tim Wise vid linked, all I have to say is UGH! Tired of hearing BS like that so many times. We need to stop focusing so much on race in EVERY situation and race won't be an issue. Even Morgan Freeman agrees with that.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GeixtYS-P3s



RageBot said:
cAPSLOCK said:

Had a big wall of text wrote up, deleted it.

I'll just leave this here and go. I'll just say it's well worth the watch, and the guy is a good speaker so it makes it easy to sit through.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y2mjvFNOwmc

It'll also be a fun excercise to find out who the racists are on this forum.


I heard up to 10:00, and he didn't mentioned asians.

Why is that?

African-Americans have a unique place in American culture and history, as do people from Mexico.  By the same token, so do Asians. Asian-Americans from Korea, Japan, and China have a long history of creating insular communities and emphasizing the importance of academic success.  The results are actually interesting regarding the impact of this: they find higher cases of mental disorders related to stress (performance)  in Asian-Americans and far more cases of STDs in female Asian-Americans. To top it all off, while the classic example of "learn to speak English" is aimed at Mexicans, studies have shown Asian-American homes have far less people with a proficiency in English even as far as 2 and 3 generations in when compared to Indians, Mexicans, and people of Arab and Persian descent. 

There are, of course, some really important differences, such as people of Asian heritage having a culture to work from while descendants of slaves had their history and culture taken from them.  So imagine having your history torn from you to the point where you can only vaguely point at a continent on top of having deep seeded institutional oppression working against you.  Asian-Americans by and large have no such negative framing.  In fact, it's opposite: people expect more from Asian-Americans, which is obviously prejudice and does have detrimental effects, it's jus that the impact is of a different nature. 

There's a hell of a lot to this, it's a rather large can of worms.  Asian-Americans certainly get their fair share of racism and degradation--ask an Asian male how well he fares in the dating department.  Just that the focus of that particular lecture is regarding problems concerning racism and privilege and how it pertains to poverty and higher cases of incarceration. 

It was really more of a connect the dots kind of post. It's a great example of how deeply unfair American culture is and helps demonstrate that poverty is far more often the result of institutional problems and being born into the "wrong" area or race than the being some kind of hard-working, rugged individualist. 

https://docs.google.com/viewer?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.economicmobility.org%2Fassets%2Fpdfs%2FEMP%2520American%2520Dream%2520Report.pdf

Very good mini-study looking at economic mobility in the US, but there's stats all over the place.  

Point being, life isn't a video game.  It's not fair with set rules and we aren't all given the tools to succeed.  Some people out there are playing Wii Sports, and some people out there are playing "I Wanna Be The Guy".  It makes no sense to talk about punishing the poor or oppressed under such circumstances.  The question in the OP is saying "let's punish a symptom" rather than looking at systemic problems that cause these conditions.  

Keep listening. There's a lot there to that lecture that's worth listening to.