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Troll_Whisperer on 31 August 2011
Umos-Cmos said:
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To the OP I would simply ask you to explain to me what salt tastes like.  Assuming I've never tasted something so common as salt, how would you explain to me how it tastes?

It doesn't work like that... salt is something tangible, if never tasted it, you taste it. If it exists you try it. If God exists...

 

If you had never tasted or seen salt or met anyone who had tasted or seen salt or had no salt at all anywhere on Earth to prove it's existence would you believe in this so called 'salt'?

God does exist, prove him.  Just like you would prove what salt tastes like or if you wanted to see if a seed truly sprouts into a plant.  It's not that complicated.  I've experienced the power of God in my life.  I have a lifes worth of experience that you cannot disprove.  I know he exists.  How is this different from the parameters I set for salt?  Surely you could describe something so common as salt.

Because everyone can experience salt but not everyone can experience God...

You're feeling is not backed up by anything and millions of people don't feel the same way. I could describe salt with a lot of proof, I could actually bring it. You're not proving anything.

I never felt anything like God in my life, no one in my family is religious. If you had never been taught about it would you have felt it?

Not that many people are religious in Europe. So it's not just a matter of describing, you need more. I could make up and describe anything I please.

False.  Everyone CAN experience God.  Do you really want to know how or are you just trolling me?  I'd be glad to tell you how if you'd like.  The fact that it is impossible to describe what salt tastes like to someone that has never tried it illustrates my point.  Unless you try it yourself, you cannont really know.  In this same way, I have put God to the test and proved him.  He has made himself evident to me.  It's all the evidence I need.  If you have a true desire to know God he has provided a way for you to get to know him.

Not everyone can experience God. I can't and I know I never will. Same with most people around me.

According to your logic, my feeling must the truth and therefore God does NOT exist at all.

There, proven.



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Umos-Cmos on 31 August 2011
pezus said:
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Reason 1: The tide comes in the tide goes out...never a miscommunication.

Reason 2: The Bible

Reason 3: He is watching us and tempting us into feeling he doesn't exist but he actually wants us to resist that temptation and embrace Him.

God does not temp us.  Satan does.

lol so therefore when i see some hot lady going down the street and i have feelings of lust for her or whatever its not me but satan right?

God's DNA is a part of us.  We were created in his image, therefore we have passions and desires.  We are here to learn to master those passions and desires.  Satan is the one putting the dirty thoughts into your mind of all the bad things you want to do with said hot lady.

I didn't originally mean temptations as in "dirty thoughts", just that He is "testing us" so to speak. 

I'll agree that one of the main reasons we left God's presence and came to Earth was to be tempted.  I agree with you that God does not tempt us himself, but allows Satan to temp us in order to be tested.  There must be opposition in all things.  If there were no opposition, how would we know the good from the bad, pleasure from pain, or virtue and vice.  There would be no choices to make, we could not exercise our agency to chose if there were no opposition.



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Umos-Cmos on 31 August 2011
crissindahouse said:
Umos-Cmos said:
 

God's DNA is a part of us.  We were created in his image, therefore we have passions and desires.  We are here to learn to master those passions and desires.  Satan is the one putting the dirty thoughts into your mind of all the bad things you want to do with said hot lady.

that sounds not nice. sounds like we are animals in a experimental station, i think i would have to go to jail if i would do that to someone...

I'm confused as to which part sounds "not nice".  We are quite the opposite of some experimental animals.  We each have the seeds of godliness within us.  He desires us to become just like him.  Not sure if you are christian or not, but this truth is stated many times in holy scripture.



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Umos-Cmos on 31 August 2011
Troll_Whisperer said:
Umos-Cmos said:
Troll_Whisperer said:
Umos-Cmos said:
Troll_Whisperer said:
Umos-Cmos said:

To the OP I would simply ask you to explain to me what salt tastes like.  Assuming I've never tasted something so common as salt, how would you explain to me how it tastes?

It doesn't work like that... salt is something tangible, if never tasted it, you taste it. If it exists you try it. If God exists...

 

If you had never tasted or seen salt or met anyone who had tasted or seen salt or had no salt at all anywhere on Earth to prove it's existence would you believe in this so called 'salt'?

God does exist, prove him.  Just like you would prove what salt tastes like or if you wanted to see if a seed truly sprouts into a plant.  It's not that complicated.  I've experienced the power of God in my life.  I have a lifes worth of experience that you cannot disprove.  I know he exists.  How is this different from the parameters I set for salt?  Surely you could describe something so common as salt.

Because everyone can experience salt but not everyone can experience God...

You're feeling is not backed up by anything and millions of people don't feel the same way. I could describe salt with a lot of proof, I could actually bring it. You're not proving anything.

I never felt anything like God in my life, no one in my family is religious. If you had never been taught about it would you have felt it?

Not that many people are religious in Europe. So it's not just a matter of describing, you need more. I could make up and describe anything I please.

False.  Everyone CAN experience God.  Do you really want to know how or are you just trolling me?  I'd be glad to tell you how if you'd like.  The fact that it is impossible to describe what salt tastes like to someone that has never tried it illustrates my point.  Unless you try it yourself, you cannont really know.  In this same way, I have put God to the test and proved him.  He has made himself evident to me.  It's all the evidence I need.  If you have a true desire to know God he has provided a way for you to get to know him.

Not everyone can experience God. I can't and I know I never will. Same with most people around me.

According to your logic, my feeling must the truth and therefore God does NOT exist at all.

There, proven.

I'm curious as to why you don't feel like you can experience God and know who he is?



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DeadNotSleeping on 31 August 2011

I suppose none of my experiences would not be considered evidence, much less proof. After all, they didn't occur in a lab so it wouldn't conform to the Scientific Method or be considered empirical. I don't mind, though.

There was one time about...fifteen years ago. I was in a Bible Camp at one of the nightly campfires where we'd sing songs, pray and all sorts of other things that would probably make your eyes roll. And there was a band that played every night. Anyways, one night it started raining and that meant that the evening would probably have to end early, lest we all freeze while the water ruins all the instruments and stuff.

So the guy in charge of the camp asked us all to pray for the rain to stop so that we might continue to enjoy our evening and offer glory to God. The rain didn't stop. It rained harder. You could hear it, you could see it, you could feel it coming down harder. But none of us got wet.

True story. And I don't care if you don't believe me.



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Troll_Whisperer on 31 August 2011
Umos-Cmos said:
Troll_Whisperer said:
Umos-Cmos said:
Troll_Whisperer said:
Umos-Cmos said:
Troll_Whisperer said:
Umos-Cmos said:

To the OP I would simply ask you to explain to me what salt tastes like.  Assuming I've never tasted something so common as salt, how would you explain to me how it tastes?

It doesn't work like that... salt is something tangible, if never tasted it, you taste it. If it exists you try it. If God exists...

 

If you had never tasted or seen salt or met anyone who had tasted or seen salt or had no salt at all anywhere on Earth to prove it's existence would you believe in this so called 'salt'?

God does exist, prove him.  Just like you would prove what salt tastes like or if you wanted to see if a seed truly sprouts into a plant.  It's not that complicated.  I've experienced the power of God in my life.  I have a lifes worth of experience that you cannot disprove.  I know he exists.  How is this different from the parameters I set for salt?  Surely you could describe something so common as salt.

Because everyone can experience salt but not everyone can experience God...

You're feeling is not backed up by anything and millions of people don't feel the same way. I could describe salt with a lot of proof, I could actually bring it. You're not proving anything.

I never felt anything like God in my life, no one in my family is religious. If you had never been taught about it would you have felt it?

Not that many people are religious in Europe. So it's not just a matter of describing, you need more. I could make up and describe anything I please.

False.  Everyone CAN experience God.  Do you really want to know how or are you just trolling me?  I'd be glad to tell you how if you'd like.  The fact that it is impossible to describe what salt tastes like to someone that has never tried it illustrates my point.  Unless you try it yourself, you cannont really know.  In this same way, I have put God to the test and proved him.  He has made himself evident to me.  It's all the evidence I need.  If you have a true desire to know God he has provided a way for you to get to know him.

Not everyone can experience God. I can't and I know I never will. Same with most people around me.

According to your logic, my feeling must the truth and therefore God does NOT exist at all.

There, proven.

I'm curious as to why you don't feel like you can experience God and know who he is?

Can you experience Alá or Buddha?

If I say I believe in a three headed monkey that created the seas with tears and the earth with his dry blood, can you experience him?

Try.



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Jay520 on 31 August 2011
Umos-Cmos said:
Troll_Whisperer said:
Umos-Cmos said:
Troll_Whisperer said:
Umos-Cmos said:

To the OP I would simply ask you to explain to me what salt tastes like.  Assuming I've never tasted something so common as salt, how would you explain to me how it tastes?

It doesn't work like that... salt is something tangible, if never tasted it, you taste it. If it exists you try it. If God exists...

 

If you had never tasted or seen salt or met anyone who had tasted or seen salt or had no salt at all anywhere on Earth to prove it's existence would you believe in this so called 'salt'?

God does exist, prove him.  Just like you would prove what salt tastes like or if you wanted to see if a seed truly sprouts into a plant.  It's not that complicated.  I've experienced the power of God in my life.  I have a lifes worth of experience that you cannot disprove.  I know he exists.  How is this different from the parameters I set for salt?  Surely you could describe something so common as salt.

Because everyone can experience salt but not everyone can experience God...

You're feeling is not backed up by anything and millions of people don't feel the same way. I could describe salt with a lot of proof, I could actually bring it. You're not proving anything.

I never felt anything like God in my life, no one in my family is religious. If you had never been taught about it would you have felt it?

Not that many people are religious in Europe. So it's not just a matter of describing, you need more. I could make up and describe anything I please.

False.  Everyone CAN experience God.  Do you really want to know how or are you just trolling me?  I'd be glad to tell you how if you'd like.  The fact that it is impossible to describe what salt tastes like to someone that has never tried it illustrates my point.  Unless you try it yourself, you cannont really know.  In this same way, I have put God to the test and proved him.  He has made himself evident to me.  It's all the evidence I need.  If you have a true desire to know God he has provided a way for you to get to know him.



I'm curious. How has God proved his existence in your life?

richardhutnik on 31 August 2011
DeadNotSleeping said:
I suppose none of my experiences would not be considered evidence, much less proof. After all, they didn't occur in a lab so it wouldn't conform to the Scientific Method or be considered empirical. I don't mind, though.

There was one time about...fifteen years ago. I was in a Bible Camp at one of the nightly campfires where we'd sing songs, pray and all sorts of other things that would probably make your eyes roll. And there was a band that played every night. Anyways, one night it started raining and that meant that the evening would probably have to end early, lest we all freeze while the water ruins all the instruments and stuff.

So the guy in charge of the camp asked us all to pray for the rain to stop so that we might continue to enjoy our evening and offer glory to God. The rain didn't stop. It rained harder. You could hear it, you could see it, you could feel it coming down harder. But none of us got wet.

True story. And I don't care if you don't believe me.

You prayed for the rain to stop, but it didn't?  So, did the campfire get put out?



crissindahouse on 31 August 2011
Umos-Cmos said:
crissindahouse said:
Umos-Cmos said:
 

God's DNA is a part of us.  We were created in his image, therefore we have passions and desires.  We are here to learn to master those passions and desires.  Satan is the one putting the dirty thoughts into your mind of all the bad things you want to do with said hot lady.

that sounds not nice. sounds like we are animals in a experimental station, i think i would have to go to jail if i would do that to someone...

I'm confused as to which part sounds "not nice".  We are quite the opposite of some experimental animals.  We each have the seeds of godliness within us.  He desires us to become just like him.  Not sure if you are christian or not, but this truth is stated many times in holy scripture.

not sure what would happen to me if i would breed some creature out of my dna haha or if i just would put my dna in some other creature to make my dna a part of this creature. i bet some christians would condemn me as freaking scientist wouldn't they? but it's cool that it happened to us?



Umos-Cmos on 31 August 2011
Troll_Whisperer said:
Umos-Cmos said:
Troll_Whisperer said:
Umos-Cmos said:
Troll_Whisperer said:
Umos-Cmos said:
Troll_Whisperer said:
Umos-Cmos said:

To the OP I would simply ask you to explain to me what salt tastes like.  Assuming I've never tasted something so common as salt, how would you explain to me how it tastes?

It doesn't work like that... salt is something tangible, if never tasted it, you taste it. If it exists you try it. If God exists...

 

If you had never tasted or seen salt or met anyone who had tasted or seen salt or had no salt at all anywhere on Earth to prove it's existence would you believe in this so called 'salt'?

God does exist, prove him.  Just like you would prove what salt tastes like or if you wanted to see if a seed truly sprouts into a plant.  It's not that complicated.  I've experienced the power of God in my life.  I have a lifes worth of experience that you cannot disprove.  I know he exists.  How is this different from the parameters I set for salt?  Surely you could describe something so common as salt.

Because everyone can experience salt but not everyone can experience God...

You're feeling is not backed up by anything and millions of people don't feel the same way. I could describe salt with a lot of proof, I could actually bring it. You're not proving anything.

I never felt anything like God in my life, no one in my family is religious. If you had never been taught about it would you have felt it?

Not that many people are religious in Europe. So it's not just a matter of describing, you need more. I could make up and describe anything I please.

False.  Everyone CAN experience God.  Do you really want to know how or are you just trolling me?  I'd be glad to tell you how if you'd like.  The fact that it is impossible to describe what salt tastes like to someone that has never tried it illustrates my point.  Unless you try it yourself, you cannont really know.  In this same way, I have put God to the test and proved him.  He has made himself evident to me.  It's all the evidence I need.  If you have a true desire to know God he has provided a way for you to get to know him.

Not everyone can experience God. I can't and I know I never will. Same with most people around me.

According to your logic, my feeling must the truth and therefore God does NOT exist at all.

There, proven.

I'm curious as to why you don't feel like you can experience God and know who he is?

Can you experience Alá or Buddha?

If I say I believe in a three headed monkey that created the seas with tears and the earth with his dry blood, can you experience him?

Try.

I have never studied Alá or Buddha, you'd have to ask a member of one of those religions.  I know that the Christian God spoken of in the Bible exists and I know how to communicate with and know him.  I'm not sure what you are driving at though?  In answer to your question about the three headed monkey, if I had a desire to know and you provided a way to do it, I believe one could follow your directions and prove it to see if it is truth.  I asked a simple question that you did not answer, however.



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