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theprof00 said:
disolitude said:

Lets look at 10 year history -  http://www.google.ca/finance?client=ob&q=NASDAQ:MSFT

The way I am inerpreting this is if you wanted to buy a MS share in 2001, you would have had to pay 27 dollars no? Then in 2003 your shares doubled due to 2:1 split. Today your share is worth 27 dollars, except you have twice as many...

Are you saying that the 27 dollars per share in 2001 is already adjusted down for the splits that happened? I really doubt this is how they would keep track of historical share prices... but if there is evidence to prove this, I will not argue.

Jesus Christ dude, NO.

That is how they track historical pricing. Look up "split-adjusted". That is why at the bottom of the reports you're looking at, it says "split-adjusted".

If you KNEW what you were talking about, there wouldn't be a problem, but you don't so stop trying to correct people.


Fair enough...sorry.



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disolitude said:
theprof00 said:
disolitude said:

Lets look at 10 year history -  http://www.google.ca/finance?client=ob&q=NASDAQ:MSFT

The way I am inerpreting this is if you wanted to buy a MS share in 2001, you would have had to pay 27 dollars no? Then in 2003 your shares doubled due to 2:1 split. Today your share is worth 27 dollars, except you have twice as many...

Are you saying that the 27 dollars per share in 2001 is already adjusted down for the splits that happened? I really doubt this is how they would keep track of historical share prices... but if there is evidence to prove this, I will not argue.

Jesus Christ dude, NO.

That is how they track historical pricing. Look up "split-adjusted". That is why at the bottom of the reports you're looking at, it says "split-adjusted".

If you KNEW what you were talking about, there wouldn't be a problem, but you don't so stop trying to correct people.


Fair enough...sorry.

Sorry I snapped.



There is more competition today yes......but Microsoft still manages to PROFIT approx 5 billion every fiscal quarter.

whoever wrote this article is an idiot.



Xbox: Best hardware, Game Pass best value, best BC, more 1st party genres and multiplayer titles. 

 

theprof00 said:
disolitude said:
theprof00 said:
disolitude said:

Lets look at 10 year history -  http://www.google.ca/finance?client=ob&q=NASDAQ:MSFT

The way I am inerpreting this is if you wanted to buy a MS share in 2001, you would have had to pay 27 dollars no? Then in 2003 your shares doubled due to 2:1 split. Today your share is worth 27 dollars, except you have twice as many...

Are you saying that the 27 dollars per share in 2001 is already adjusted down for the splits that happened? I really doubt this is how they would keep track of historical share prices... but if there is evidence to prove this, I will not argue.

Jesus Christ dude, NO.

That is how they track historical pricing. Look up "split-adjusted". That is why at the bottom of the reports you're looking at, it says "split-adjusted".

If you KNEW what you were talking about, there wouldn't be a problem, but you don't so stop trying to correct people.


Fair enough...sorry.

Sorry I snapped.

All good. I learned something...

I mean, I've never invested myself but have been watching trends and these charts after a few buddies of mine made some money investing 1000s in to 10 cent stocks which went up to 20 cents and doubled their money...lol.

Never realized that past stock price is adjusted based on todays true value like that...



sales2099 said:
There is more competition today yes......but Microsoft still manages to PROFIT approx 5 billion every fiscal quarter.

whoever wrote this article is an idiot.

Stocks are about growth, maybe you should rethink your statement.



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disolitude said:
theprof00 said:
disolitude said:
theprof00 said:
disolitude said:

Lets look at 10 year history -  http://www.google.ca/finance?client=ob&q=NASDAQ:MSFT

The way I am inerpreting this is if you wanted to buy a MS share in 2001, you would have had to pay 27 dollars no? Then in 2003 your shares doubled due to 2:1 split. Today your share is worth 27 dollars, except you have twice as many...

Are you saying that the 27 dollars per share in 2001 is already adjusted down for the splits that happened? I really doubt this is how they would keep track of historical share prices... but if there is evidence to prove this, I will not argue.

Jesus Christ dude, NO.

That is how they track historical pricing. Look up "split-adjusted". That is why at the bottom of the reports you're looking at, it says "split-adjusted".

If you KNEW what you were talking about, there wouldn't be a problem, but you don't so stop trying to correct people.


Fair enough...sorry.

Sorry I snapped.

All good. I learned something...

I mean, I've never invested myself but have been watching trends and these charts after a few buddies of mine made some money investing 1000s in to 10 cent stocks which went up to 20 cents and doubled their money...lol.

Never realized that past stock price is adjusted based on todays true value like that...

I have a friend who's into stocks too, he invests in activisino, msft, ea, and a couple others...i think a bank was one. Stocks a re scary though. I had another friend who lost 10,000 in there.

You should try a "fantasy stock" game, where you pick whatever stocks you want and allocate 10 million $ into it, and track your performance. It's quite fun.

 

The site I used to play on is called updown.com.



Heh waiting for the M$ f......supporters to come complain about the article and defend such a "great" company. However, Disolitude you are right about the stock split in 03. Apple truly has become a force, and on the smartphone front it seems Android dominates followed by Apple.



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only because maybe other companies became bigger doesn't mean microsoft as whole company is shit. just because they don't have the luck of apple that from one day to another everyone needs an apple product doesn't mean microsoft isn't a good company in what they are doing for their core business. i bet in 15 years microsoft still is growing but not apple. apple just has the lucky years but their has to become just one competitor as loved as aplle atm and apple will be doomed.

for example if the iphone 6 or whatever would be a flop because another company would be the next lifestyle champ apple would be really doomed and this time will come anytime.

i really don't like microsoft very much but i don't get the problem they make more money than ever they have more revenue than ever and they are doomed only because some other companies grow faster? that's the problem of the stock market and the financial problems the world has.

i don't care how big a company is i care about if they work economic and microsoft is doing this better than most other companies on this planet.





demonfox13 said:
Heh waiting for the M$ f......supporters to come complain about the article and defend such a "great" company. However, Disolitude you are right about the stock split in 03. Apple truly has become a force, and on the smartphone front it seems Android dominates followed by Apple.

This may throw this discussion out of control, but all this Android smartphone "domination" is not making Google nearly enough money as it should. Buying Motorolla may change that but at what cost?

Image below is a few years old, but is still valid when it comes to showing where google makes their money from.

People may rip in to MS for milking and living of Windows revenue, but Google AdWords is the same thing for Google.



spurgeonryan said:
I don't think that as the new windows programs come out people are going to not buy it. My step son wants to get rid of his apple laptop...because he cannot play the big games on it. What did he ask for? Windows. I am not saying that there are not other options. I am just saying that for myself who knows hardly anything about computers Windows is the only thing I do know. I would not go to anything else. We will just have to wait and see for now I guess.

Off-topic, but you can install Windows on Apple computers, so no need to buy a new laptop. Just buy the OS.

Back on topic, the problem is not that Windows is becoming less relevant in the world of PC's, rather that the world of PC's is becoming (slowly) irrelevant with the arrival of smartphones and tablets.



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