Yea if I was that deep in the whole I would try to make some money back too.
Yea if I was that deep in the hole I would try to make some money back too.
Biggest thing in next consoles isn't going to be upgraded graphics in my view.
It's going to be full digital with consoles having HDDs big enough to handle that and upgraded versions of XBoxLive and PSN.( you will still have physical copies too if you want..). The PC market is there, the smart phone market is there, the book market is getting there, the video market is getting there, the consoles will get there...
Sony, Microsoft and publishers make more money per sale on digital sales than on sales at retails and it kills the used market. ( and it will be a good way to offset higher development costs without charging customers for more).
And what do you think make retails sales go down as a gen ages ? Yep used sales... The older a gen gets the bigger the used games sales get...
And if I am right, Nintendo is going to be totally missing the boat again as it doesn't seem to be something they are pushing on the Wii U... ( understandably as they are very focused on younger customers and holidays sales and people buy physical copies for Christmas gifts as they want to have something physical to hand out..).I mean you're not going to handle digital sales of full games with flash storage...
If consoles makers handle this right this will be a benefit for us as there is no reason to have a fixed price on digital sales the way we have for games at retail ( and this is already the case for Steam and PSN, not all games release at the same price and prices can change quickly depending on the success of a game).
This is a leap that is cheap in term of hardware too, a terrabyte HDD isn't a lot more expensive than a 320Gb one. The main cost is in upgrading the infrastructure of PSN and XBoxLive but that's not a cost per console at least...
Look at the PC market.
Used PC games sales are dead, game price go down faster after the release and you can still get physical copies of most games for those of you that still want that medium...
This will happen because financially this is exactly what the console makers and the publishers need.
Console makers gets more money per game sold, publishers get the end of the used market. Gamestop gets F***D...
PS3-Xbox360 gap : 1.5 millions and going up in PS3 favor !
PS3-Wii gap : 20 millions and going down !
padib said:
WiiU supports an unlimited, optional EHD. Ninty will be fine should they look into going aggressive in the digital market. |
Optionnaly supporting what may be the biggest feature of the gen isn't being fine.....
PS3-Xbox360 gap : 1.5 millions and going up in PS3 favor !
PS3-Wii gap : 20 millions and going down !
I hope not, the current gen is doing great.
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Vetteman94 said:
The Wii U already does that just fine? How? Have you played it? Not to mention I said at a minimum. As there are some games that already run at those levels on PS3. As for the laumch date for the PS4 and Nextbox, I love how you conclude that its no longer possible to debate it since you believe marketshare matters. If they arent competing against each other it doesnt matter what their marketshare is. And No I do not believe that the PS4 and Nextbox will be competing against the Wii U. It will be the same way it is now with the PS3 and 360 against the Wii. People dont see them as direct competitors so marketshare doesnt matter. As they arent losing support from the game companies. And you want to know what the big difference will be from this generation to the next? 1080p @ 60 FPS minimums, Texture quality and animations. Most games are in HD but not full HD, 1080p is twice the number of pixels as 720p, and then to get that to run a 60FPS, where as most nowadays are 30 FPS. That is a huge difference. Now all three of these things will come at a pretty high cost. Will Nintendo pay that cost and release a console near the price the 360 launched at? Doubtful. Especially considering that the controller will eat up alot of the cost itself. The Wii U will not have all the latest technology for 2011, to even suggest such a thing is stupid. The console would cost $600+ and Nintendo would never release a console at that price point. You may see technology from 2008 in there, thats so they can keep costs down, as that is extremely important to them. I have yet to hear a good thing about their online system, but I must be reading the wrong news articles. Well 3rd parties arent going to release many, if any at all, exclusives on the system until it starts to sell well, especially considering they could put it on the HD twins and have 100M consoles at their disposal. And maybe Nintendo is going to have a bunch of great exclusives. They have always produced great games. But are they the type of games that are going to pull the people away who play Halo, Gears of War, Uncharted, God of War, Mass Effect, Gran Turismo, Bioshock, Battlefield, Call of Duty, Grand Theft Auto and Assasins Creed? That remains to be seen. But I am betting no, as it didnt happen this gen. |
Reggie said that 1080p will be the standard on the Wii U in a post conference interview.
What makes you think that the Wii U won't directly compete woth the PS3/4, and 360/Nextbox. They have said many times that they are going after that type of gamer. You can see that with the amount of FPS coming to it. 3rd party devs won't leave the PS3/360, after all just look at all of the high profile 3rd party releases that the PS2 got in '05.
Once again, Reggie confirmed 1080p/60 FPS. Textqure quality and animations? Look at the Japanese Garden demo. It won't be that expensive to make it all happen, after all, there are several PS360 games that support 1080p whether it iis at 30 FPS,or 60. The Wii U is stronger than both of those so it will be a little easier for developers to make it happen on the Wii U. Also, they probably won't be relucant to price the console higher than usual, provided that the software is there. I'm guessing $350.
According to press releases from IBM and ATI, the Wii U does have some modern tech. I'll give you the links if you want me to. Here is Activision saying good things about the Wii U's online.
We won't know about any concrete exclusives, or games period until 2012.
It's funny to me that people are actually calling out or insulting SONY for this...
You really expect them to say "Ya, we're working on it, it's coming soon. Keep buying our current system though!" YES the PS4 is of course in heavy development at this point. That's just how the business works. All 3 publishers would say this even if they were within 6 months of announcing the next system.
4 ≈ One
| Vetteman94 said: Releasing the consoles in 2014 would allow them to make that Quantum Leap in Graphics and stay reasonable with prices, not to mention it will also allow them to do 3D correctly and have every game running 1080p @ 60FPS minimum. Plus its not just about the graphics, its about being able to make animations smoother and other things as well. Is the Wii U gonna be capable of all of this? Dont know, but if I had to guess considering Nintendo's past, no it wont be. As for the power of the Wii U, who knows where it lies when it compares to the PS3 and 360, no official specs have been released. And the difference between the PS2 and GC/Xbox were minimal. And 3rd Parties will abandon the Wii U if there is a huge graphical difference, and if the controller becomes cumbersome to develop for. The Wii U would have to offer something extraordinary for the Hardcore to stop playing their 360s and PS3s to buy a new console. Nintendo's inability to make a good online system is already one strike against them, and just making a console powerful enough to get Multiplats from PS3 and 360 isnt going to do it, since those systems have exclusives that each owner wants. |
This is gold. For the record, there have been press statements that the WiiU will be able to handle 1080p, but your argument seems to be towards some kind of belief that people are falling over themselves to purchase the higher definition console. CONSUMERS, no less (which you stated on a previous post). The average consumer is not interested in GFLOPS or resolution, the Wii more than proved that. If the WiiU can deliver an experience that cannot be easily replicated on the other next-gen systems, then there's a good chance that we'll see a repeat of this gen, with Sony and Microsoft attempting to play "catch-up" in innovation.
Right wieght on words. Sony has no desire releasing a new console, it doesn't mean they won't do it, if it becomes necessary. The only meaning you can get out of it is that Sony doesn't want to be a first-mover in nextgen market, not exactly a news.
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