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Please read thread before polling and this is just a prediction as of business strategies as of now

Yes,as far as current plans go 57 21.67%
 
No,as far as current plans go 125 47.53%
 
Yes,even if ninty changes... 14 5.32%
 
no,ninty will cause Sony to rethink 67 25.48%
 
Total:263
scottie said:
PS3-Wii gap = 35.5 million

PS3 sales last week = 126 580

Lets say that Wii sales instantly drop to 0. The Wii is immediately discontinued! Lets also imagine that the PS3 sees a sustained boost due to the price cut, christmas etc. Lets give it a 30% boost from last week in total sales. This would give it weekly sales of 164 554. This would require 216 weeks for the PS3 to outsell the Wii. This would put the PS3 ahead sometime in October 2015.

Really people, the fact that anyone voted yes is shameful/

Read your own post without the bias!

Could the PS3 end up outselling the wii ? Answer: YES it could IF the wii is dicontinued upon the launch of the wiiU AND PS3 sales remain constant or increase due to a changing marketplace/opposition loosing focus.

Do I think the PS3 will end up outselling the Wii? .............   hell no.



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it really depends what Nintendo do in term of its support for Wii the next 4 years, if they keep doing what it's doing and bury Wii in favour of Wii U in 2012.

then absolutely PS3 will have chance. Albeit it will probably be 2016, but I don't think PS3 will stop selling for a long time to come, look no further than PS2.


let's not forget to mention that PS3 will never outsell Wii according to VGC, how much is PS2 undertracked so far?? 12 million?



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No the PS3 only has one more year of great sales left in it before its sales will decline due to rise in popularity of the 3DS, Wii U, PS Vita and other new upcoming consoles. Also the Wii will get one more major sales boost once it hits the $99 sale price before it gets discontinued.



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ultraslick said:
scottie said:
PS3-Wii gap = 35.5 million

PS3 sales last week = 126 580

Lets say that Wii sales instantly drop to 0. The Wii is immediately discontinued! Lets also imagine that the PS3 sees a sustained boost due to the price cut, christmas etc. Lets give it a 30% boost from last week in total sales. This would give it weekly sales of 164 554. This would require 216 weeks for the PS3 to outsell the Wii. This would put the PS3 ahead sometime in October 2015.

Really people, the fact that anyone voted yes is shameful/

Read your own post without the bias!

Could the PS3 end up outselling the wii ? Answer: YES it could IF the wii is dicontinued upon the launch of the wiiU AND PS3 sales remain constant or increase due to a changing marketplace/opposition loosing focus.

Do I think the PS3 will end up outselling the Wii? .............   hell no.


And the dreamcast could outsell the PS2 if the PS2 suddenly experiences a lot of negative sales. Why bother to debate impossibilities? Besides, I already considered the Wii being discontinued IMMEDIATELY, and the PS3 having an incredible 30% boost for the rest of its life, and it took till 2016.



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snakenobi said:

Talking of PS3 being even competitive was a far fetched idea back in the days when PS3 was launched.Everybody said PS3 will be extinct and SONY will go bankrupt.And that the Wii brand is way too strong. Way to rewrite history here. If you weren't aware, the popular prediction back then was something like 80 million for PS3 and 20 million for the Wii by now.

They were all wrong,why?

because the business strategy matters big time to keep a system relvant and to grow it.Systems are great but you have to continue to revitalize the business and also keep the consumers interested.It has to be relevant in the soceity. What business stategy? The only one needed is an affordable console with good games on a regular basis. That's it.

 

Wii sales are big but its difference has gone as the experiences became old and aren't unique anymore(not talking about franchises here but the novelty) No, they just stopped making good games for it.

but they cut Wii's price has very low room for further price cuts to penetrate the purchasing piower as its already within reach,coupled with same experiences and less innovation. Price cuts don't and so will not help them at all.

 

whereas PS3 has been innovating and taking risk's,has alot of room for price-cuts,they still give consumers that feeling that something bigger and newer is coming and this is not it.They continue to be relevant with MOVE,to take others userbase. Move hasn't been the success you seem to make it look like. It sold a bit, but that's it. And hah at taking risks: the only thing they managed to do is burn through billions of dollars with a safe bet, nothing risky here.

 

Also the fact that Nintendo's business strategy didn't understand that the consumers expections and business enviorment will be the same,they need to understand that competiton will force changes. I'm not too sure what you want to say here, but if we're talikng about online, then yes, Nintendo sure is underdevelopped here.

Wii is becoming lesser relevant day by day,which bad ahead of a new console launch(WiiU),which the company needs to utilize on.So Nintendo will have to discontinue Wii when Wii U launches as it will become irrelevant towards the future of compete against the Wii U.This is the same that we see with DS and 3DS. No. Well, at least that would be the smart thing to do. Discontinuing the Wii would be stupid, since they would be cancelling a good revenue stream for no reason. It's like the PS2. As for the 3DS, we're seeing a market rejection of the console, and again, disontinuing the DS would be stupid.

 

and the fact that SONY is sending a message that PS3 will overlap Wii U with its price still being so high.Same for 360.

 

The only way Nintendo will save Wii U is to bring big changes in Wii U liek it did with REVOLUTION to Wii in their business outlook which forces SONY and MS to rethink for next generationwhich will also cause the end of PS3 and 360 sooner otherwise Wii U is gonna be like dreamcast. Wii U and business outlook? Nice one there. Wii U will probably not end up like the Dreamcast, but that's because Nintendo is hell bent on making a GameCube 2, not because of Sony's and Microsoft's strtegies.

 

As of now PS3 and 360 will overlap atleast in the generational sense and PS3 will go over Wii in sales in 3-4 years time. That really does seem unlikely.





WhiteDevil said:
Only if Nin stops production of the wii all together. And then its only if Sony supports ps3 as long as they did the Ps2.

But i dont see nin stopping all production of the wii.

So no


Nintendo is already working on a Wii Slim, so I don't think they are going to stop production of the Wii anytime soon. The Wii Slim will probably be released next year just before or after the Wii U launches. Chances are very good that it will only be $99. Those things will fly off retail shelves next year if that happens. The PS3 will have no chance of catching the Wii this generation. Nintendo won't pull the Wii for at least 3 years from now. I expect the PS3 will last another 4 years at best.



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Phoeniks.Wright said:
snakenobi said:

Talking of PS3 being even competitive was a far fetched idea back in the days when PS3 was launched.Everybody said PS3 will be extinct and SONY will go bankrupt.And that the Wii brand is way too strong. Way to rewrite history here. If you weren't aware, the popular prediction back then was something like 80 million for PS3 and 20 million for the Wii by now.

They were all wrong,why?

because the business strategy matters big time to keep a system relvant and to grow it.Systems are great but you have to continue to revitalize the business and also keep the consumers interested.It has to be relevant in the soceity. What business stategy? The only one needed is an affordable console with good games on a regular basis. That's it.

 

Wii sales are big but its difference has gone as the experiences became old and aren't unique anymore(not talking about franchises here but the novelty) No, they just stopped making good games for it.

but they cut Wii's price has very low room for further price cuts to penetrate the purchasing piower as its already within reach,coupled with same experiences and less innovation. Price cuts don't and so will not help them at all.

 

whereas PS3 has been innovating and taking risk's,has alot of room for price-cuts,they still give consumers that feeling that something bigger and newer is coming and this is not it.They continue to be relevant with MOVE,to take others userbase. Move hasn't been the success you seem to make it look like. It sold a bit, but that's it. And hah at taking risks: the only thing they managed to do is burn through billions of dollars with a safe bet, nothing risky here.

 

Also the fact that Nintendo's business strategy didn't understand that the consumers expections and business enviorment will be the same,they need to understand that competiton will force changes. I'm not too sure what you want to say here, but if we're talikng about online, then yes, Nintendo sure is underdevelopped here.

Wii is becoming lesser relevant day by day,which bad ahead of a new console launch(WiiU),which the company needs to utilize on.So Nintendo will have to discontinue Wii when Wii U launches as it will become irrelevant towards the future of compete against the Wii U.This is the same that we see with DS and 3DS. No. Well, at least that would be the smart thing to do. Discontinuing the Wii would be stupid, since they would be cancelling a good revenue stream for no reason. It's like the PS2. As for the 3DS, we're seeing a market rejection of the console, and again, disontinuing the DS would be stupid.

 

and the fact that SONY is sending a message that PS3 will overlap Wii U with its price still being so high.Same for 360.

 

The only way Nintendo will save Wii U is to bring big changes in Wii U liek it did with REVOLUTION to Wii in their business outlook which forces SONY and MS to rethink for next generationwhich will also cause the end of PS3 and 360 sooner otherwise Wii U is gonna be like dreamcast. Wii U and business outlook? Nice one there. Wii U will probably not end up like the Dreamcast, but that's because Nintendo is hell bent on making a GameCube 2, not because of Sony's and Microsoft's strtegies.

 

As of now PS3 and 360 will overlap atleast in the generational sense and PS3 will go over Wii in sales in 3-4 years time. That really does seem unlikely.



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