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Halo 4 on 720
Xbox 720 to be revealed at E3 2012
Just Cause Dev - Pretty sure of 720 in 2014
CryEngine 3 readying for 720 Kinect
720 in 2012 wouldn't be a surprise - analyst



 

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I really, really hope Microsoft focuses on improving Kinect and utilizing biofeedback in the 720! They don't have to do any massive upgrade in terms of power, but if they can improve Kinect while creating a controller that is designed to be used with it, then that would be really awesome! Couple it with a bit of biofeedback (like the Vitality Sensor or something), and we are off to unprecedented levels of "being put in the game"!



I wouldn't say Halo 4 is going to the 720 jst yet. Halo 5&6 going to it seems more likely.



This is more of what I expect to happen ...

Much like how Nintendo took a "Step forward" with the processing power of the Wii U to make it more viable as a core gaming machine, I expect Microsoft and Sony to take a "Step backwards" in processing power to be able to release their systems at a more affordable price to be more meaningful for the broader gaming market from day 1.

At E3 2012 I expect Microsoft (and Sony) to release a bunch of videos which are pre-rendered "approximations" of what people can expect from their systems, along side a series of very limited tech-demos; and create unrealistic expectations for games on their system. The goal of this will be to have the Wii U compete against a "Phantom" competitor.

I expect Microsoft will put a greater emphasis on Kinect and may go as far as including an "advanced" version of Kinect with every system sold.

I expect XBox Live to become a free to the end user and Microsoft to try to pay for the service through ads delivered in game (probably between matches).



Rainbird said:

I really, really hope Microsoft focuses on improving Kinect and utilizing biofeedback in the 720! They don't have to do any massive upgrade in terms of power, but if they can improve Kinect while creating a controller that is designed to be used with it, then that would be really awesome! Couple it with a bit of biofeedback (like the Vitality Sensor or something), and we are off to unprecedented levels of "being put in the game"!



all that plus an augmented reality pair of glasses... so it just completely defeats the concept Wii U is trying to pull... no need of a touch screen when you have motion plus augmented reality between you and the screen :D



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For starters, I have always hated the Xbox 720 meme... can we please go by NextBox or something else since 720 is just retarded and doesn't even make sense. They won't be using 720.

Lol rant over.



HappySqurriel said:
This is more of what I expect to happen ...

Much like how Nintendo took a "Step forward" with the processing power of the Wii U to make it more viable as a core gaming machine, I expect Microsoft and Sony to take a "Step backwards" in processing power to be able to release their systems at a more affordable price to be more meaningful for the broader gaming market from day 1.

At E3 2012 I expect Microsoft (and Sony) to release a bunch of videos which are pre-rendered "approximations" of what people can expect from their systems, along side a series of very limited tech-demos; and create unrealistic expectations for games on their system. The goal of this will be to have the Wii U compete against a "Phantom" competitor.

I expect Microsoft will put a greater emphasis on Kinect and may go as far as including an "advanced" version of Kinect with every system sold.

I expect XBox Live to become a free to the end user and Microsoft to try to pay for the service through ads delivered in game (probably between matches).


price is irrelevant.... Sony just effed up themselves last gen they could have rolled out the PS3 for cheaper from day 1.... yeah more lose at launch but you get your money back faster by waterfall effect....

and 400 for a new system is doable even with new advance tech especially if you have different format.... and I don't see why MS and Sony would care about WiiU I mean I'm almost certain they won't pull out the stunt they did with the Wii... for 2 reasons.... first they might say there is no excuse for the devs to not do core games.... COOOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLL...... who cares.... the real question is do core gamers want to play on Wii??????? I mean if I have a 360 or a PS3 and the Wii is now doing same quality core games.... why should I care especially if my current console is coming also with a new system pretty soon....

and second I'm still dead certain that the Wii trend was just a Trend... even after all that time.... on LT sales of Wii how many people are REAL casual who never bought anything else than Wii sport and Wii Fit and don't give a flying crap about WiiU.... I think Wii was an excellent product but I'm not sure it's user base is going to follow to the next gen..... so why should MS or Sony take the risk when they can just support their last gen a little bit longer for the casual. and launch a new sys around the same usual price.....

now live going free.... I doubt it..... or maybe with the option of paying for no ads or better service..... and I would still rather have it not free.... because free stuff don't have the same quality standards most of the time..... the fact live is not free makes it less accessible to morons... because morons tends to be cheap..... or let me put it that way..... people who use free stuf are more likely to act up like morons than when they pay for something..... just for that keep it not free PLEASE MS.... for once that I want you to rob me.... don't stop lol....



nightsurge said:
For starters, I have always hated the Xbox 720 meme... can we please go by NextBox or something else since 720 is just retarded and doesn't even make sense. They won't be using 720.

Lol rant over.



when you see nintendo go with WiiU are you absolutely sure they won't use 720???? or even worst are you sure they won't use something even worst than 720..... the YBox 360 anyone lol



Part of me thinks X720 and PS4 are late 2012 releases, at least in one or two markets. With PS3 especially, there is no "Kinect like" shot in the arm for Europe and the USA late in year six-seven on the market - given Sony's PS3 forecast, we're already at the point where they don't expect to see meaningful lifts on price cuts (as far as reaching a new level of hw sales) and so I don't think they can go between systems quite as long as Microsoft (already set to be more than 6 years, probably at least 7 years). Microsoft does have to be careful, they can't just modestly update Kinect / graphics - the machine would be too similar to get many people to upgrade quickly, they'll need another a big leap.

That said, PS3 at $200-$250, and a cheaper Kinect mean that Sony and Microsoft could probably wait until 2013 if they wanted to. Sony went six years from PS2 to PS3, and that was probably a mistake as far as marketshare goes, so I don't know that I'd wait until seven years - PS4 in March 2013 would make a lot of sense to me, with X720 in November 2012 (seven years). Sony is under a fair amount of pressure over the next two years for software as PSP and PS2 completely collapse which is my main reason I think they'll do early 2013 at the latest - PSP / PS2 software is still just enough to keep Sony platforms at 200m games shipped per year right now- but I don't think they're really set up to profit if software drops below that level, and I think it could in 2012 / 2013.

To some degree, I think it also depends on how Wii U does. If it gallops out of the gate, I think X360 & PS3 start to lose some shelf space for games and thats the real issue immediately.



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endimion said:
HappySqurriel said:
This is more of what I expect to happen ...

Much like how Nintendo took a "Step forward" with the processing power of the Wii U to make it more viable as a core gaming machine, I expect Microsoft and Sony to take a "Step backwards" in processing power to be able to release their systems at a more affordable price to be more meaningful for the broader gaming market from day 1.

At E3 2012 I expect Microsoft (and Sony) to release a bunch of videos which are pre-rendered "approximations" of what people can expect from their systems, along side a series of very limited tech-demos; and create unrealistic expectations for games on their system. The goal of this will be to have the Wii U compete against a "Phantom" competitor.

I expect Microsoft will put a greater emphasis on Kinect and may go as far as including an "advanced" version of Kinect with every system sold.

I expect XBox Live to become a free to the end user and Microsoft to try to pay for the service through ads delivered in game (probably between matches).


price is irrelevant.... Sony just effed up themselves last gen they could have rolled out the PS3 for cheaper from day 1.... yeah more lose at launch but you get your money back faster by waterfall effect....

How many gamers and game sales did Sony lose by trying to bring a $600 console to market?

and 400 for a new system is doable even with new advance tech especially if you have different format.... and I don't see why MS and Sony would care about WiiU I mean I'm almost certain they won't pull out the stunt they did with the Wii... for 2 reasons.... first they might say there is no excuse for the devs to not do core games.... COOOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLL...... who cares.... the real question is do core gamers want to play on Wii??????? I mean if I have a 360 or a PS3 and the Wii is now doing same quality core games.... why should I care especially if my current console is coming also with a new system pretty soon....

If the Wii U plays all the same games as the PS4 and Microsoft's next generation system with a graphical downgrade similar to what we saw between the Playstation and N64 (or PS2 and XBox) what reason is there to own the other systems if non-traditional gamers in your household want the Wii U for Wii U specific games?

and second I'm still dead certain that the Wii trend was just a Trend... even after all that time.... on LT sales of Wii how many people are REAL casual who never bought anything else than Wii sport and Wii Fit and don't give a flying crap about WiiU.... I think Wii was an excellent product but I'm not sure it's user base is going to follow to the next gen..... so why should MS or Sony take the risk when they can just support their last gen a little bit longer for the casual. and launch a new sys around the same usual price.....

With people not playing games, why does it sell so much software?

now live going free.... I doubt it..... or maybe with the option of paying for no ads or better service..... and I would still rather have it not free.... because free stuff don't have the same quality standards most of the time..... the fact live is not free makes it less accessible to morons... because morons tends to be cheap..... or let me put it that way..... people who use free stuf are more likely to act up like morons than when they pay for something..... just for that keep it not free PLEASE MS.... for once that I want you to rob me.... don't stop lol....