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Zucas said:
Wow so why would Namco want to put a game out on a system they know the game will flop on?

Yea I don't see this as an official confirmation yet. I'll wait for Namco to state it, not this. I mean it makes it more lean towards PS360, but Namco isn't dumb enough to put a big series like Tales on the 360, where it will most likely flop.

Tales isn't a big series... the best selling Tales game of all time is ToS on the GC at 1.08 million.  It remains the only Tales game to ever sell more than 1 million units.  Chances are Microsoft paid for development which lets Namco make nothing but profit on sales.  Not a bad move by Microsoft since Tales games are rarely expensively developed.



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naznatips said:
Zucas said:
Wow so why would Namco want to put a game out on a system they know the game will flop on?

Yea I don't see this as an official confirmation yet. I'll wait for Namco to state it, not this. I mean it makes it more lean towards PS360, but Namco isn't dumb enough to put a big series like Tales on the 360, where it will most likely flop.

Tales isn't a big series... the best selling Tales game of all time is ToS on the GC at 1.08 million. It remains the only Tales game to ever sell more than 1 million units. Chances are Microsoft paid for development which lets Namco make nothing but profit on sales. Not a bad move by Microsoft since Tales games are rarely expensively developed.


I doubt that.  I await OFFICIAL confirmation where it'll either be on Wii or PS360, but not a 360 exclusive.  And if it does I'm willing to eat my words, but it makes no sense whatsoever for Namco to do it that way, unless of course MS does its behind the scene dirty tactics again.



Zucas said:
naznatips said:
Zucas said:
Wow so why would Namco want to put a game out on a system they know the game will flop on?

Yea I don't see this as an official confirmation yet. I'll wait for Namco to state it, not this. I mean it makes it more lean towards PS360, but Namco isn't dumb enough to put a big series like Tales on the 360, where it will most likely flop.

Tales isn't a big series... the best selling Tales game of all time is ToS on the GC at 1.08 million. It remains the only Tales game to ever sell more than 1 million units. Chances are Microsoft paid for development which lets Namco make nothing but profit on sales. Not a bad move by Microsoft since Tales games are rarely expensively developed.


I doubt that.  I await OFFICIAL confirmation where it'll either be on Wii or PS360, but not a 360 exclusive.  And if it does I'm willing to eat my words, but it makes no sense whatsoever for Namco to do it that way, unless of course MS does its behind the scene dirty tactics again.


whats the problem with 360 exlusive? MS most likely paid for it, at least timed exclusive. Paying for development or exclusivetivity is behind scene dirty tactics, i guess all 3 companys are dirty.



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Bet with Harvey Birdman that Lost Odyssey will sell more then Blue dragon did.

How much is Namco planning to sell with this game in Japan? 120k lifetime at most? We should wait for Namco confirmation, they are probably still thinking over it since they know the risk involved. If they were smart they'd release this for the Wii.



they should put it on the wii if they want to make it a million seller



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Zucas said:
Wow so why would Namco want to put a game out on a system they know the game will flop on?

Yea I don't see this as an official confirmation yet. I'll wait for Namco to state it, not this. I mean it makes it more lean towards PS360, but Namco isn't dumb enough to put a big series like Tales on the 360, where it will most likely flop.

Because MS more than likely gave Namco some sort of incentive. I mean given the PS3's less than stellar performance in Japan, it can't be too hard for MS to keep getting exclusivity. Has a third party exclusive managed to exceed expectations in Japan on PS3 yet? I mean if MS foots the development costs, Namco makes money no matter how many units the game sells.

Edit: I am so sick and tired of MS getting deriding for "dirty tactics" for buying exclusives. Sony used the same tactics to get to the number one position in the market and no one cared. When MS does it, there is a problem. Hypocrisy strikes yet again.



i have a feeling, this wont sell well in japan like they are hoping.



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I agree, either the wii or ps3, they are going to loss money on this game because of the exclusivity to the Xbox. LO didnt even break 80k.



 

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Darc Requiem said:
Zucas said:
Wow so why would Namco want to put a game out on a system they know the game will flop on?

Yea I don't see this as an official confirmation yet. I'll wait for Namco to state it, not this. I mean it makes it more lean towards PS360, but Namco isn't dumb enough to put a big series like Tales on the 360, where it will most likely flop.

Because MS more than likely gave Namco some sort of incentive. I mean given the PS3's less than stellar performance in Japan, it can't be too hard for MS to keep getting exclusivity. Has a third party exclusive managed to exceed expectations in Japan on PS3 yet? I mean if MS foots the development costs, Namco makes money no matter how many units the game sells.

Edit: I am so sick and tired of MS getting deriding for "dirty tactics" for buying exclusives. Sony used the same tactics to get to the number one position in the market and no one cared. When MS does it, there is a problem. Hypocrisy strikes yet again.


yeah, cause the 360 is beaming with Japanese success! I hear they're going to rename Tokyo and call it "Bill Gates"

I can imagine the board meeting

"Alright team, if we release it on the PS3 we might be looking at 250k - 300k lifetime in Japan, A modest amount of sales. BUT, instead of that, we can drink paint thinner and then release it on the 360 and have Worldwide sales of around 200k!?!. Then after we come down from paint thinner induced pyschadelic high, we can see that our game sold like crap and release it in a few months on the PS3"

"sounds good boss"



Stats87 said:
Darc Requiem said:
Zucas said:
Wow so why would Namco want to put a game out on a system they know the game will flop on?

Yea I don't see this as an official confirmation yet. I'll wait for Namco to state it, not this. I mean it makes it more lean towards PS360, but Namco isn't dumb enough to put a big series like Tales on the 360, where it will most likely flop.

Because MS more than likely gave Namco some sort of incentive. I mean given the PS3's less than stellar performance in Japan, it can't be too hard for MS to keep getting exclusivity. Has a third party exclusive managed to exceed expectations in Japan on PS3 yet? I mean if MS foots the development costs, Namco makes money no matter how many units the game sells.

Edit: I am so sick and tired of MS getting deriding for "dirty tactics" for buying exclusives. Sony used the same tactics to get to the number one position in the market and no one cared. When MS does it, there is a problem. Hypocrisy strikes yet again.


yeah, cause the 360 is beaming with Japanese success! I hear they're going to rename Tokyo and call it "Bill Gates"

I can imagine the board meeting

"Alright team, if we release it on the PS3 we might be looking at 250k - 300k lifetime in Japan, A modest amount of sales. BUT, instead of that, we can drink paint thinner and then release it on the 360 and have Worldwide sales of around 200k!?!. Then after we come down from paint thinner induced pyschadelic high, we can see that our game sold like crap and release it in a few months on the PS3"

"sounds good boss"

Can you understand that he means why would they bring it to ps3 with its decent success, or allow MS to pay for development/exclusivity and only reap on cash?

Can your brain understand this

Now say "sounds good"

 



                 With regard to Call of Duty 4 having an ultra short single player campaign, I guess it may well have been due to the size limitations of DVD on the XBox 360, one of various limitations multi-platform game designers will have to take into consideration-Mike B   

Proud supporter of all 3 console companys

Proud owner of 360wii and DS/psp              

Game trailers-Halo 3 only dissapointed the people who wanted to be dissapointed.

Bet with Harvey Birdman that Lost Odyssey will sell more then Blue dragon did.